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Old December 8th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #821
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Very small gap for one supertall.
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Old December 8th, 2011, 08:35 PM   #822
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Very small gap for one supertall.
Well...its a very thin tower.
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Old December 8th, 2011, 09:11 PM   #823
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Old December 8th, 2011, 09:24 PM   #824
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I still think that the renders we saw so far arent the real thing. I mean, why should the developer of this building waste an oppurtunity with such a mundane tower, withTHAt height while a few blocks away Hines and Extell are gonna build new icons for NYC.

I think we will have a big suprise one day when official renders are released.
because its not expensive like a tower verre
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Old December 8th, 2011, 09:56 PM   #825
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As seen in the model, the exterior facade has some sort of framing throughout. If it's high-quality aluminum surrounding clear glass windows, it will be striking.



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Old December 8th, 2011, 09:57 PM   #826
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Old December 8th, 2011, 09:59 PM   #827
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Old December 8th, 2011, 11:25 PM   #828
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Looks like this will be a very perimeter column dependent building though not as much as the old WTC or the Aon Center I guess
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Old December 9th, 2011, 12:31 AM   #829
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As seen in the model, the exterior facade has some sort of framing throughout. If it's high-quality aluminum surrounding clear glass windows, it will be striking.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/ronaldo/000-3.jpg
If that facade will be that much 3d as on that renderings this will be very interesting building. Not necessarily beautiful but surely interesting construction to follow. I guess with such structural facade this building won't need a core. I was always curious how such thin and tall building will stand on its own without a strong core taking most of the usable floor space. And it indeed make sense to make the whole building a core instead. Especially when the building is that thin. The drawback of this solution will be obvious view and light access limitation but nonetheless very interesting solution this is.

Of course I may be wrong about it but I hardly can think of any other alternative to having large thick core. Well maybe structural facade plus some lite version of the core, but seeing other NY towers I won't be surprised if we won't see any core rising here.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:52 AM   #830
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If the metal on the facade is of a high-quality, the facade should be striking, and the six floating "mini towers" will be interesting too. One 57 looks very tall and thin, and yet this tower is 40% taller.

This didn't have the immediate visual impact that Torre Verre, the Hudson Yards, or the London Shard does, but this may turn out to be amazing.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:21 AM   #831
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Heey, I'm happy to come here and see more news. I really enjoyed the site showing the cam 24 hours, will help us a lot.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:41 AM   #832
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Simulation of tower construction.

Should be built in a couple of days.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:50 PM   #833
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If that facade will be that much 3d as on that renderings this will be very interesting building. Not necessarily beautiful but surely interesting construction to follow. I guess with such structural facade this building won't need a core. I was always curious how such thin and tall building will stand on its own without a strong core taking most of the usable floor space. And it indeed make sense to make the whole building a core instead. Especially when the building is that thin. The drawback of this solution will be obvious view and light access limitation but nonetheless very interesting solution this is.

Of course I may be wrong about it but I hardly can think of any other alternative to having large thick core. Well maybe structural facade plus some lite version of the core, but seeing other NY towers I won't be surprised if we won't see any core rising here.
Maybe the core will be just a bundle of steel columns like at the old WTC. I can imagine that such a double tube design might pretty well adress this tower's biggest problem, which is wind Though fact is that if this is the case the building will sway like crazy
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Old December 9th, 2011, 02:15 PM   #834
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Should be built in a couple of days.
Hilarious.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 03:25 PM   #835
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This tower....no matter how I try to look at it... its just ugly... its so thin and yet so tall... it looks fake, like a thin jenga tower.

They should cut half of its height for it to look moderately good.

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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #836
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If the metal on the facade is of a high-quality, the facade should be striking, and the six floating "mini towers" will be interesting too. One 57 looks very tall and thin, and yet this tower is 40% taller.

This didn't have the immediate visual impact that Torre Verre, the Hudson Yards, or the London Shard does, but this may turn out to be amazing.
Well you have certainly changed your tune.
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Old December 9th, 2011, 05:58 PM   #837
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I think that it is better to be pleasantly surprised by excellent execution of fit and finish of a seemingly mundane tower than to be disappointed by a purported gem that is poorly executed. Lets hope that the former is the case!

I like it as proposed, but it will all come down to execution.
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Old December 10th, 2011, 02:05 AM   #838
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As seen in the model, the exterior facade has some sort of framing throughout. If it's high-quality aluminum surrounding clear glass windows, it will be striking.



I don't see a point for this glass cube at all. It is beautiful and all, but to build it just to make sure it is covering all the land on this L shaped lot is kinda stupid. I'd prefer to see a small park at the bottom - soft of like in midtown in many places.
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Old December 10th, 2011, 03:43 AM   #839
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I don't see a point for this glass cube at all. It is beautiful and all, but to build it just to make sure it is covering all the land on this L shaped lot is kinda stupid. I'd prefer to see a small park at the bottom - soft of like in midtown in many places.
I completely agree with you, but the people buying apartments at $5k/sf+ won't want the hoi polloi hanging out in a park next to the apartment. The OWS crowd would take up residence.
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Old December 10th, 2011, 03:57 AM   #840
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^ Maybe the residents can grow some vegetables or fruits inside this glass cube
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