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Old August 24th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #8441
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No, the original 1WTC was very advanced for its time, using steel and concrete as well.

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Old August 24th, 2013, 08:15 PM   #8442
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Oh, and here's the link to 56 Leonard: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=708580
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Old August 25th, 2013, 12:58 AM   #8443
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YES!!!!! You have to look close, but there it is:






AMAZING how fast this thing is growing...can't wait to see the walls climb into view!
What is the building with the pyramid on top? It looks really cool
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Old August 25th, 2013, 01:24 AM   #8444
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That's the Park Avenue Tower.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 01:36 AM   #8445
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What is the building with the pyramid on top? It looks really cool
It's called the "Park Avenue Tower", even though (as Emporis points out) it has even less of a reason to claim to be on Park Ave then 432 does. It's really not as cool in person as it looks here (the metal pyramid is by far the best part of the building). Kind of plasticy looking - sort of looks like an office building that was designed by a shopping mall architect.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 01:37 AM   #8446
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That photo above of wtc is priceless, looks like methods of building skyscrapers hasnt changed much over the years.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 01:49 AM   #8447
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It was the first supertall to use kangaroo cranes.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 03:19 AM   #8448
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It's called the "Park Avenue Tower", even though (as Emporis points out) it has even less of a reason to claim to be on Park Ave then 432 does. It's really not as cool in person as it looks here (the metal pyramid is by far the best part of the building). Kind of plasticy looking - sort of looks like an office building that was designed by a shopping mall architect.
Now I know why I remember this building. I placed it in Simcity 4 once http://nycj.blogspot.nl/2006/11/sim-...landmarks.html
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Old August 26th, 2013, 04:57 AM   #8449
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It's called the "Park Avenue Tower", even though (as Emporis points out) it has even less of a reason to claim to be on Park Ave then 432 does. It's really not as cool in person as it looks here (the metal pyramid is by far the best part of the building). Kind of plasticy looking - sort of looks like an office building that was designed by a shopping mall architect.

Let's say it is YOUR opinion
Mine is that it's a great buildind,a kind of prestigious neighbor for 432.
By the way,the "shopping mall architect" is Helmut Jahn himself,a worlwide renowned architect and one of the most inventive....
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Old August 26th, 2013, 05:00 AM   #8450
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I personally think the top of it's the worst part, the frame not being much better.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 05:44 AM   #8451
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I personally think the top of it's the worst part, the frame not being much better.

I'm sure you are a scholar about architecture,probably the next Herbert Mushamp and i will not argue with you.
Nevertheless,with some more imagination you would realize that what you have here is a genial tribute to one of NY's landmarks:the Water Tower.
But feel free of course to hate that building....
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Old August 26th, 2013, 06:37 AM   #8452
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It's called the "Park Avenue Tower", even though (as Emporis points out) it has even less of a reason to claim to be on Park Ave then 432 does. It's really not as cool in person as it looks here (the metal pyramid is by far the best part of the building). Kind of plasticy looking - sort of looks like an office building that was designed by a shopping mall architect.
At least it is more creative and better looking than 1 Liberty Plaza
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Old August 26th, 2013, 07:12 AM   #8453
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Tackiness is worse than no creativity. And compared to other buildings from its time 1LP is definitely creative. The only building I can really relate to it is the US Steel Tower in Pittsburgh and that's not even the same shape.
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Tackiness is worse than no creativity. And compared to other buildings from its time 1LP is definitely creative. The only building I can really relate to it is the US Steel Tower in Pittsburgh and that's not even the same shape.
It was originally built as the headquarters of US Steel. When USS relocated its headquarters, the name was changed.

Interestingly, both 432 and 1LP share a simplistic square floor plate all the way to the top of the building. Both also use less common facade material which is structural rather than a thin asthetic cladding. Where they differ is that 432 is slender, almost delicate. 1LP is bulky, hulking and imposing despite not being as tall.
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I'm sure you are a scholar about architecture,probably the next Herbert Mushamp and i will not argue with you.
Nevertheless,with some more imagination you would realize that what you have here is a genial tribute to one of NY's landmarks:the Water Tower.
But feel free of course to hate that building....
No, I'm no different than anyone else here, but to each his own.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 02:38 PM   #8456
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It was originally built as the headquarters of US Steel. When USS relocated its headquarters, the name was changed.

Interestingly, both 432 and 1LP share a simplistic square floor plate all the way to the top of the building. Both also use less common facade material which is structural rather than a thin asthetic cladding. Where they differ is that 432 is slender, almost delicate. 1LP is bulky, hulking and imposing despite not being as tall.
1LP's exterior beams are hollow, not structural.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 02:39 PM   #8457
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Tackiness is worse than no creativity. And compared to other buildings from its time 1LP is definitely creative. The only building I can really relate to it is the US Steel Tower in Pittsburgh and that's not even the same shape.
Yeah, you just can't go wrong with modernism. But with postmodernism, you'll either royally screw it up or get a masterpiece.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 06:06 PM   #8458
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Old August 26th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #8459
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Another picture from the same guy where you can see better 432 Park. (Go to the link and select the max resolution if you want)
The pictures are from august 18th, so the building has grown two more floors since these were taken.

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Old August 26th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #8460
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2 floors since august 18th isn't that bad. soon this will rise over the towers arround it
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