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Old August 26th, 2013, 08:03 PM   #8461
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I made this to have an idea of how it will when seen from Rockefeller Center. I used Citigroup Center as a reference since it is at about the same distance from the Top of the rock than 432 Park (about 700 meters)



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Old August 26th, 2013, 08:54 PM   #8462
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Was at Central Park yesterday by the baseball fields and I can definitely see 432 from there.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #8463
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I made this to have an idea of how it will when seen from Rockefeller Center.
I don't suppose you want to add in the 1200 ft 111 w. 57th and the ~1600 ft 225 w. 57th (the latter of which might not even fit into the top of the frame)?
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Old August 26th, 2013, 09:16 PM   #8464
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I made this to have an idea of how it will when seen from Rockefeller Center. I used Citigroup Center as a reference since it is at about the same distance from the Top of the rock than 432 Park (about 700 meters)


Imagine if they built a that had red transparent glass like that!
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Old August 26th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #8465
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Oh my god, that is thin. Bloomberg Tower looks like a backwoods shed compare to this.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 12:35 AM   #8466
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Yes, it's unsettling to see a building that tall and thin. For obvious reasons. It just looks too unsafe to me. I wonder what height to circumference ratio would architects consider the limit?
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Old August 27th, 2013, 01:08 AM   #8467
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Yes, it's unsettling to see a building that tall and thin. For obvious reasons. It just looks too unsafe to me. I wonder what height to circumference ratio would architects consider the limit?
Not that any of us will live to see it, but just try to imagine a space elevator for a second. A structure not much wider than 432 Park, that tops out a couple hundred miles above geostationary orbit.

THAT would be unsettling.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 01:33 AM   #8468
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Space elevators is the coolest concept. The fact that if we build something taller than one, it would fly into space is mindboggling.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 02:00 AM   #8469
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Space elevators is the coolest concept. The fact that if we build something taller than one, it would fly into space is mindboggling.
I don't want to take this too far off topic or anything... but yes, it's awesome. Someone sitting at the top would already be traveling at something like 50,000 miles per hour (however fast the Earth is rotating), so if you let go, then you'd rocket off into space.

Talk about a whole different kind of engineering.

Anyway. /OT

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Old August 27th, 2013, 02:04 AM   #8470
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Yeah, what I'm saying is the tip would be travelling over escape velocity, which, for those who don't know, is the speed that's required for something to go so fast that it leaves earth's G Field. Per se, Apollo 11 had to go over Vescape to go to the moon. That's how fast it'd be moving to keep up with the base since it's orbital diameter is so far beyond Earth's.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 04:02 AM   #8471
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Yeah, what I'm saying is the tip would be travelling over escape velocity, which, for those who don't know, is the speed that's required for something to go so fast that it leaves earth's G Field. Per se, Apollo 11 had to go over Vescape to go to the moon. That's how fast it'd be moving to keep up with the base since it's orbital diameter is so far beyond Earth's.
true L.A.F.2 , also when the upper structure of the space elevator went past the geostationary orbit, it will feel a new centrifugal force pulling it up and with earth's gravity pulling it down, the structure becomes stable, like holding both end of a rope with your hand, you should check out "how high can we build?" by vsauce, it's awesome, topic about the space elevator begins at 7:02



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Old August 27th, 2013, 04:03 AM   #8472
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That's a great video. I actually watched it a few weeks ago and almost started a thread for it. Yeah, once we get that high, the building's inertia causes it to become weightless.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 04:07 AM   #8473
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One thing I'm not sure of is whether this is once it reaches horizontal Vescape or vertical Vescape. I think it's the former, but I'm not sure. It requires √2 times the velocity to do the latter.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 03:24 PM   #8474
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Old August 27th, 2013, 06:11 PM   #8475
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┐What is the orange new building in constrction in this photo?

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Old August 27th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #8476
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┐What is the orange new building in constrction in this photo?
That's the Baccarat Hotel.
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Old August 27th, 2013, 07:56 PM   #8477
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This building looks exactly like how I used to imagine a skyscraper looks like when I was 4 years old....Just a tall box with square-shaped windows..But it is still awesome!
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Old August 27th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #8478
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This building looks exactly like how I used to imagine a skyscraper looks like when I was 4 years old....Just a tall box with square-shaped windows..But it is still awesome!
I always gave it a spire for cheap increased height
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Old August 27th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #8479
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This building looks exactly like how I used to imagine a skyscraper looks like when I was 4 years old....Just a tall box with square-shaped windows..But it is still awesome!
Perhaps the architect was inspired by such a childs drawing:

"What's this son? You drawing pictures like Daddy?! Hmmm. I wonder what yours would look like in real life. Let's find out, shall we?!"


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Old August 27th, 2013, 10:39 PM   #8480
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When I thought of skyscrapers as a kid, I thought of 70 Pine Streets and 1LPs.
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