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Old September 5th, 2013, 10:52 PM   #8581
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it seems to be past 450Park already, probably around 500ft high by now?
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Old September 5th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #8582
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Tackiness? How exactly is that building tacky looking? It looks great to me. It possesses an interesting and unique shape and its exterior design is really no different from most skyscrapers from the era it was built. The design somewhat resembles that of 60 Wall Street.
It looks like 60 wall street? I rest my case.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 06:41 PM   #8583
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As 432 Park Avenue grows, I find the action taking place on the elevated platform on the west side of the site interesting. Workers are tying the perimeter beam reinforcing together, as they have been doing for the project, but here the reinforcing appears to be assembled in half-length sections, rather than the full-length units made previously. I have been watching this activity intensely, and my guess for this is, that as the building has grown, it would become far more unwieldy (and possibly dangerous) to lift the full-length rebar to great heights due to wind effects. such wind loads could affect crane boom stability, especially if the boom were side-loaded by wind loads. Plus, trying to control a full-length rebar unit that high up in the air with an impractical length of tagline doesn't seem feasible.
I am guessing, that each half would be lifted, then joined into a full-length rebar unit up top with couplers.
Just a guess, will have to watch and see.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 06:50 PM   #8584
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So you're saying the crane might not be able to work?
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:08 PM   #8585
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Current height?
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #8586
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460 feet is my guess.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #8587
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #8588
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So you're saying the crane might not be able to work?
No, that's not what he is saying.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #8589
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We might be living together someday, orange boy!

And tim1807, what is marcatio saying? It sounds like a combination of weather and construction jargon to me.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:15 PM   #8590
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Current height?
I think already 490 feet ( 150 m ) to the top of the cage.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #8591
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I was off by 30 feet. So what?
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:19 PM   #8592
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And tim1807, what is marcatio saying? It sounds like a combination of weather and construction jargon to me.
Well, it's not that the cranes can't handle it but it's far more easier for them to control smaller objects in the sky than the former massive rebar parts we saw. They don't want to risk these rebar parts to swing loose in the wind 1000 feet up.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:19 PM   #8593
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Maybe between 135-140 m. Where is Kanto???
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Old September 6th, 2013, 07:54 PM   #8594
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Umm... whats a feet?
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This annotated image lists the height of the buildings surrounding 432 Park. The new tower should rise above all its immediate neighbors by the end of this year.

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Old September 6th, 2013, 08:56 PM   #8595
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Well, it's not that the cranes can't handle it but it's far more easier for them to control smaller objects in the sky than the former massive rebar parts we saw. They don't want to risk these rebar parts to swing loose in the wind 1000 feet up.
Thanks! So I guess they'll just have to disassemble the big parts or just not make big parts.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 08:58 PM   #8596
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Umm... whats a feet?
Feet is the plural of foot. A foot, when talking about American skyscraper heights, is a unit of measuring height.
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Old September 6th, 2013, 10:50 PM   #8597
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Feet is the plural of foot. A foot, when talking about American skyscraper heights, is a unit of measuring height.

Or, it's those things attached to our ankles
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Old September 6th, 2013, 11:55 PM   #8598
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Old September 7th, 2013, 12:15 AM   #8599
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Rise, rise my future home

You want to live in this thing? I don't want to be in or even anywhere near it... every time I see renders of this tower it looks like the slightest puff of wind will blow it right over. This is possibly the freakiest skyscraper ever.
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Old September 7th, 2013, 12:59 AM   #8600
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If the information regarding the height reduction of 225 West 57th Street is true, then 432 Park could be the roof-level champ in NYC for many years. So I'll post the list I've been working on in this thread.

It's hard to keep track of all the projects happening in NYC right now, so I thought a concise list would help.

Before recent construction (including buildings topping out in 2011-13), there were only 5 buildings in New York with roofs higher than 850 feet. These were The Empire State Building (1,250), Bank of America (945), The Chrysler Building (925), CitiGroup Center (915), and Trump World Tower (861). After the addition of Beekman Tower (870), 4 WTC (977), 1 WTC (1,368), and One57 (1,004), the number of 850+ buildings changed from 5 to 9. Looking at the list below, there might be another 15 buildings of that height added in the next 5 years, nearly quintupling the number of 850-foot+ buildings (at the roof) since 2009 (when the Bank of America building was completed). So the number of 850-foot+ buildings in New York as of 2009 was 5. There might be 24 such buildings by 2019.

In the list below, older construction (which includes all buildings completed before 2011) is indicated by gray text. Recently topped out structures (within the last two years) are indicated by light blue. These two shades make up the main features of the current skyline.

The royal blue text indicates buildings currently under construction (but not topped out), in prep, or buildings that are represented by proposals that have a strong chance of being built in the next 5 years

There are currently 98 buildings in New York that are 600 feet or taller to their roofs. If all the structures on the list below are built, that number will change to 121.

Just look at the incredible amount of blue text (representing projects under construction, in prep, or with credible proposals) above the line at 855 feet (425 Park):





There might be a few discrepancies between sources, but I think the list is pretty accurate and complete.

I threw in a few sub-600-foot buildings at lower right.

I have listed what many are calling 1715 Broadway (the new hotel) as 1717 Broadway, as that seems to be the formal address.
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