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Old November 15th, 2013, 05:09 PM   #9661
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Old November 15th, 2013, 05:12 PM   #9662
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Call it dependance for my part.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 05:54 PM   #9663
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Dubai uses the LED's because that's the only way to light up the all of those vacant trophy buildings.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #9664
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:16 PM   #9665
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This towers doesn't need LEDs, the huge windows make it cool enough when some are lit.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:25 PM   #9666
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:29 PM   #9667
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432 Park to Include Private Dining Floor for Residents (On top of Apple Store )
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Following in the footsteps of 15 Central Park West, soon-to-be-tallest-residential-building 432 Park Avenue will include an entire restaurant (8,500-square-feet with an adjacent 5,500-square-foot tented terrace) open only to residents and their guests.
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The other problem is that these restaurants don't really make money and have to be subsidized by the residents themselves. In 432 Park, residents will have to pay $3,500 annually, which will go toward their "dining minimum." If you're dropping $3 million on staff quarters, though, that shouldn't be too big of a deal. And once you can get past the price and emptiness, the benefits, of course, are manifold—the restaurant will have a computer database of each resident's dietary restrictions and preferences.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #9668
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Hi Guys I don't Know if you have already talked about it. What About the maximum drift due to the Wind pressures?
I'm doing some wind analysis and my results are around 4ft of maximum deflection at the top of the building, usually the limit factor is h/500 it means that for 432 Park Ave it should be around 2.76ft ... What do you think about it? Some one has some specific news about this topic?
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #9669
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That's true, but if the mechanical floors are lit like on the some of the renders on the first page it would be even better.
Indeed, which creates the floating tower effect.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #9670
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Hi Guys I don't Know if you have already talked about it. What About the maximum drift due to the Wind pressures?
I'm doing some wind analysis and my results are around 4ft of maximum deflection at the top of the building, usually the limit factor is h/500 it means that for 432 Park Ave it should be around 2.76ft ... What do you think about it? Some one has some specific news about this topic?
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I guess a 400m flagpole sways more than this thing does.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #9671
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I already did a SAP 2000 model about it if someone want to give a look at it, contact me I'm happy to send it by mail.
P.S. Excuse my bad English but as you probably understand I'm Italian. lol
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Old November 15th, 2013, 06:53 PM   #9672
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I guess a 400m flagpole sways more than this thing does.
Tim, they usually the deflections has to be under control ... they use a high strenght concrete and really big outrigger to control it ... but right now in my analysis it is no enought!
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Old November 15th, 2013, 07:12 PM   #9673
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Tim, they usually the deflections has to be under control ... they use a high strenght concrete and really big outrigger to control it ... but right now in my analysis it is no enought!
Of course it'll sway a bit. But they wouldn't build it if they hadn't calculated enough that it might sway too much.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 07:17 PM   #9674
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Of course it'll sway a bit. But they wouldn't build it if they hadn't calculated enough that it might sway too much.
Sure Tim! In fact I'm asking if some one of you have the real deflection that they have estimate, so I can compare it with my results and understand what I'm doing wrong !
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Old November 15th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #9675
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What if there is a earthquake??
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Old November 15th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #9676
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There won't be, but then the tuned mass dampener would function as well.
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Old November 15th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #9677
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It is possible. I think that earthquakes should be taken into consideration everywhere on the planet, not just in tectonic hotspots. But I agree that the tunned mass dampener would help a lot and this is just a guess from somebody (yet) without the proper education but won't the tunned mass dampener help with limiting deflection as well?
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Old November 15th, 2013, 11:50 PM   #9678
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Hi Guys I don't Know if you have already talked about it. What About the maximum drift due to the Wind pressures?
I'm doing some wind analysis and my results are around 4ft of maximum deflection at the top of the building, usually the limit factor is h/500 it means that for 432 Park Ave it should be around 2.76ft ... What do you think about it? Some one has some specific news about this topic?
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This was posted here some time...in case you haven't seen you might find it interesting:

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BS...de=ES571043069
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Old November 16th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #9679
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432 Park to Include Private Dining Floor for Residents (On top of Apple Store )
[URL="http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/432parkrestaurant-thumb.jpg"]http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/432parkrestaurant-thumb.jpg[/URL
The restaurant is on top of the extension of the main building to 57th street. The "Apple Store" is on the corner of Park Avenue and 56th.
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Old November 16th, 2013, 12:25 AM   #9680
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Oh cool! Thanks for clearing that up. I was not aware there is another structure/building part of 432pa other than the "Apple Building" I thought that looking at the photo but was not sure.
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