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Old November 16th, 2013, 10:23 PM   #9701
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No, you're actually right 4npower. From NYGuy over at SSP:

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^ LOL, there will be parking, as well as mandatory bike racks on the lower levels.
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Old November 16th, 2013, 10:51 PM   #9702
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Has anyone ever used a swimming pool on the top floor as a dampener? I've always thought that would be a good idea, and good dual purpose, but I could be wrong.
Nope, nobody has done something like this and I seriously doubt it would even be possible. Pool water has to be changed and can be spilled easily out of the pool itself
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Old November 17th, 2013, 12:14 AM   #9703
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Nope, nobody has done something like this and I seriously doubt it would even be possible. Pool water has to be changed and can be spilled easily out of the pool itself
The Ritz-Carlton in the ICC building in Hong Kong has a pool at its top floor (118th), about 1,570 feet above the ground.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 12:49 AM   #9704
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LOL, I didn't mean that, I meant that a pool was never used as a tunned mass dampener
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:46 AM   #9705
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:11 AM   #9706
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I'm inclined to say it won't, though I can't recall.

Also, more steel has gone up adjacent to Franklin National Bank Building in the Park Avenue corner where the Apple facility will be located.
Darn, all that money, and no place to park my Lamborghini.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 02:48 PM   #9707
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Old November 17th, 2013, 03:53 PM   #9708
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LOL, I didn't mean that, I meant that a pool was never used as a tunned mass dampener
found this while googling,

Can I use a swimming pool as a slosh damper?
Not really. Efficiency is very dependent on the depth, length, shape, and presence of baffles within the water. It would not be an ideal swimming pool.

http://www.arup.com/_assets/_downloa...D7C61EDCAF.pdf
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Old November 17th, 2013, 04:23 PM   #9709
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I agree. A bit of movement could result in big waves or sloshing of the water.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:33 PM   #9710
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Darn, all that money, and no place to park my Lamborghini.
I updated that with a diagram of the parking spaces above. This will have parking.

Side note: You'll need to give me a ride someday then.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #9711
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This building isn't really impressive looking at all. It's height can't even do it justice to be honest.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:25 PM   #9712
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I think that's exactly what makes this such a strong design.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #9713
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This building isn't really impressive looking at all. It's height can't even do it justice to be honest.

What do you think is so unimpressive about it? The building has such a little footprint and yet is over 400m tall. Its must be impressive from that alone surely.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:43 PM   #9714
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It's a marvelous feat of engineering, but a rather unimaginative piece of architecture.

I'm thrilled that it's so tall and thin, but disappointed that there's not much else about it to look at.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:52 PM   #9715
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Personally I think its a high quality building. And im just really happy to see something that isn't a glass box nowadays. I mean compared to some of the proposals for NYC (80 South St. and Brookfield Manhattan West particularly stand out) they seem to have thought about the surrounding area and its impact. I think especially from street level this will fit in very well in Midtown. I hope buildings like this and 99 church street will continue to go up, they're a rarity at the moment.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:54 PM   #9716
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Its elegantly simple.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:57 PM   #9717
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I despise these minimalism clichés that keep popping up, but I do like this building very much. It's been thoroughly enjoyable watching it rise.
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Old November 18th, 2013, 01:33 AM   #9718
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What do you think is so unimpressive about it? The building has such a little footprint and yet is over 400m tall. Its must be impressive from that alone surely.
It's general design. The footprint and size if anything take away from it to me. That's why I said the height just doesn't do it justice. Sorry, that's just my opinion
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Old November 18th, 2013, 05:31 AM   #9719
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I personally like towers that stand out more in the skyline; it's not just about height. For example, One WTC is tall yes, but what makes it mainly stand out is just how huge it is. I notice that there are more and more tall and skinny skyscrapers sprouting up around, and I must say, I'm not liking it very much. Just my thoughts.
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Old November 18th, 2013, 06:25 AM   #9720
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