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Old March 31st, 2014, 10:05 PM   #11081
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Awesome. Future owners can just sit or stand in the window and enjoy the view.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 10:18 PM   #11082
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Are u sure they used this system? sounds a bit archaic and frankly, stupid.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 10:42 PM   #11083
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New core jump, tower not fitting in the cam anymore.

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Today I just took a look at the New York skyline from an angle where the Bloomberg Tower used to block all of the tower except for the crane, and I noticed that the core was peeking out from the Bloomberg Tower. This is getting to be a really tall building.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 11:08 PM   #11084
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By May or June it will already be a supertall!
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Old March 31st, 2014, 11:33 PM   #11085
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I think this is the fastest jump so far this year, it seems they are speeding up again. Last jump was march 25th, so only 6 days ago.
Last year they made jumps as fast as 3 days apart.


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Hello guys, I'm new member however I have been visiting here over a year but just now decided to register. It's really great website.

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I'm perplexed when it comes to stability of such building. I would love to know what can this scraper withstand. I think most of us would not consider it as "most stable skyscraper". Looks like maybe small aircraft could bring it down. So is it really on the verge of safety standards compliance? Thanks
It has a facade made of strong columns placed relatively close together, united by strong beams. That makes that the structural facade works similar to a shear wall, providing stabilty against horizontal forces. It also has a core made of thick concrete walls that give more horizontal stability. In most skyscrapers, the core gives the horizontal stability, and also carries vertical loads, meanwhile the columns carry vertical loads, but little horizontal. In the case of this building, both the facade and the core help to carry the horizontal forces.
It also will have a mass damper near the top, which is an artifact with a great weight and some hydraulic cilinders that helps to counter balance the horizontal forces (wind and earthquakes)
Finally, it will have some openings every 12 floors, so the wind can pass reducing its force against the building.
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Old March 31st, 2014, 11:34 PM   #11086
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I've been traveling for the last few weeks - came home to find it looking like this:



Nice to see those windows filling in, and with the 57th St crane gone, the true 'look & feel' of the building is starting to emerge.

Here's an updated version of my gif:




Question: What 'apparent' floor are we up to now? I'm trying to visualize how much higher it's going to rise....
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Old April 1st, 2014, 12:16 AM   #11087
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Hello guys, I'm new member however I have been visiting here over a year but just now decided to register. It's really great website.

The question:
I'm perplexed when it comes to stability of such building. I would love to know what can this scraper withstand. I think most of us would not consider it as "most stable skyscraper". Looks like maybe small aircraft could bring it down. So is it really on the verge of safety standards compliance? Thanks
Hey there, welcome to the forum. The guys here love to make jokes so don't get demotivated. It's a valid question and although I'm not an engineer (at least not yet) I think this is one of the safest buildings anywhere in the world. CCs77, explained the structure in better detail, than I could , although one thing I'd like to add is that this building uses 96,52 MPA (14 000 psi) concrete. That is the strongest concrete on the planet and the new World Trade Center Towers are so far the only other buildings in the world that use this extreme concrete. For comparison (iirc) the Hoover Dam uses 48,26 MPA (7 000 psi) concrete. Normally concrete has a strength of 15 - 16 MPA

Btw, time for an update of my diagram. The building is currently has 55 apparent floors, is 260 meters or 583 feet tall and with this it has beaten the GE Building (260m/952ft), the AIG Building (259m/950ft) and possibly 40 Wall street too (the drawing makes it seem like 40 Wall street is 259 meters or 950 feet tall, although there are no official figures for its roof height)

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Old April 1st, 2014, 12:25 AM   #11088
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Question: What 'apparent' floor are we up to now? I'm trying to visualize how much higher it's going to rise....
The perimeter is 52, core 55.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 01:08 AM   #11089
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Hmm I wonder what the tuned mass dampers will look like.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 01:12 AM   #11090
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Hey there, welcome to the forum. The guys here love to make jokes so don't get demotivated. It's a valid question and although I'm not an engineer (at least not yet) I think this is one of the safest buildings anywhere in the world. CCs77, explained the structure in better detail, than I could , although one thing I'd like to add is that this building uses 96,52 MPA (14 000 psi) concrete. That is the strongest concrete on the planet and the new World Trade Center Towers are so far the only other buildings in the world that use this extreme concrete. For comparison (iirc) the Hoover Dam uses 48,26 MPA (7 000 psi) concrete. Normally concrete has a strength of 15 - 16 MPA

Btw, time for an update of my diagram. The building is currently has 55 apparent floors, is 260 meters or 583 feet tall and with this it has beaten the GE Building (260m/952ft), the AIG Building (259m/950ft) and possibly 40 Wall street too (the drawing makes it seem like 40 Wall street is 259 meters or 950 feet tall, although there are no official figures for its roof height)

You've got a bit of a tracking problem on 56 Leonard. Your VCR should have a button to correct that problem, happens with the older tapes.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 01:18 AM   #11091
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LOL, drawing 56 Leonard was a total nightmare. How does an untalented drawer like me draw pure chaos? Is it even possible for anybody to draw pure chaos?
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Old April 1st, 2014, 03:06 AM   #11092
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Has there been renders released of the cube, and retail on 57th street? Does anybody have them if they were released?
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Old April 1st, 2014, 03:47 AM   #11093
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You've got a bit of a tracking problem on 56 Leonard. Your VCR should have a button to correct that problem, happens with the older tapes.
And with that, you've got the post #11111 of this thread...
I just got #11106 and #11114
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Old April 1st, 2014, 04:02 AM   #11094
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Here's there only render of the cube we got so far, from his lecture on the building.

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Old April 1st, 2014, 04:42 AM   #11095
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thank you!...found one of the retail at 57th street in that lecture

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Old April 1st, 2014, 04:50 AM   #11096
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From today.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 06:28 PM   #11097
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Yay, 13th tallest in NYC and 38th in the US. (and about 225 in the world )
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Old April 1st, 2014, 06:33 PM   #11098
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And starting to make its presence known

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Old April 1st, 2014, 07:31 PM   #11099
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Great that there is less time between the jumps as before, in two more jumps it will be one of the top 200 towers in the world.
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Old April 1st, 2014, 08:26 PM   #11100
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From today.

It looks pretty close to Citigroup right now, with four more jumps it will be only half feet shorter. Since 432 sits in a slightly higher ground and it is also slightly on the foreground from that angle, it gives more advantage in height over Citigroup on that picture, so with those 4 additional floors, it will look already taller than Citigroup as seen from there.


Anyway, by the end of the year (or the beggining of the next) we will see this view from that angle. It is taller than I expected.
(BTW, the last two floors of the building didn't fit on the frame of the original picture, so I had to add some sky in order for it to fit)

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