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Old August 15th, 2014, 04:20 PM   #12821
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Old August 15th, 2014, 05:22 PM   #12822
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I wish that this skyscraper goes to 500m and over 100 real floors !!!!
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Old August 15th, 2014, 07:46 PM   #12823
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I'd expect the white concrete to be a bit more white, but perhaps they'll clean it before handover?
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Old August 15th, 2014, 08:29 PM   #12824
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How do you have no idea about a 1400 foot thing rising in your city? I mean even if you aren't into skyscrapers just general observational skills should kick in and you should notice the huge building.
a. It's a private residence compared to public/office bldg. like WTC1, so there's less hoopla or reason for people to care;
b. The design isn't calling attention to itself; (some would call it alienating)
c. The location is inconspicuous compared to, say, alongside Central Park.
d. It's NYC.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 08:33 PM   #12825
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It's not just a nice view. This is an incredible shot!
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Old August 15th, 2014, 08:35 PM   #12826
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I think this tower is all NY.
Couldn't see it anywhere else.
When the orange meshes are gone and it's all glass to the top, shimmering in the sun we'll talk.
Curious - How did you come to that conclusion? I ask because I find the design so simplified it could go anywhere. Alluding to simply a taller (and more expensive) version of generic residential towers found across the globe. I'd contend the lack of panache makes it rather unworthy of NYC or Chicago, IMO.

But that's just me.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 08:38 PM   #12827
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I think it also has a lot to do with the lines of sight...
This. When you're on the ground in Manhattan, you're pretty well boxed in, with buildings on all sides (not a lot of New Yorkers go regularly to, say, Central Park where you'd have the most obvious view of 432). Depending on where you spend your time, you can go days without catching a glimpse whole chunks of the skyline!
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Old August 15th, 2014, 09:44 PM   #12828
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Old August 15th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #12829
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The best views are along Madison Ave. If you walk south from the 90's it is very imposing and as you get south of about 72nd St it is FREAKISHLY HUGE. Also, along east side of Park Ave, and almost anywhere in Central Park. That's about it as said above most New Yorkers aren't looking up that much.

Also, if you jaywalk or even walk across with the light without closely looking both ways your taking a very big risk, so it's a good reason to not look up.
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Old August 16th, 2014, 12:11 AM   #12830
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a. It's a private residence compared to public/office bldg. like WTC1, so there's less hoopla or reason for people to care;
b. The design isn't calling attention to itself; (some would call it alienating)
c. The location is inconspicuous compared to, say, alongside Central Park.
d. It's NYC.
I don't see what you mean by that
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Old August 16th, 2014, 01:28 AM   #12831
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Does anyone knows the price for the apartments in this building ?
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Old August 16th, 2014, 01:55 AM   #12832
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Old August 16th, 2014, 01:59 AM   #12833
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View from my bedroom window in Queens on this cloudy ass day, distance 7.11 mi.

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Old August 16th, 2014, 02:01 AM   #12834
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I love this one. I love angles like this.

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Old August 16th, 2014, 02:14 AM   #12835
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Old August 16th, 2014, 01:00 PM   #12836
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Quite fascinated by the 432 Park Ave skyscraper.

Amazingly thin compared to its height.

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Also engineered by WSP, the structure consists of an architecturally-exposed concrete tube system, coupled to a central core with concrete strength of more than 14,000 psi.

To control the perception of lateral motion under high wind conditions, a series of openings throughout the structure have been used to improve its aerodynamics, the design of which was achieved by means of wind-tunnel testing. In addition, two tuned-mass dampers were designed to further reduce lateral acceleration to acceptable amount for the comfort of occupants.
Have been looking hard for these "wind-openings" - Can anyone point to a good article, where this is described, preferably with a picture that clearly shows it?

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But this building is no outlier in its structural components. The design features gaps in the building that allow wind to pass through, lessening the wind load on the whole. It also includes a tuned mass damper, a large object that acts as a kind of inertial counterweight. This is designed to balance a building, to keep it from swaying in the event of an earthquake and to ensure the comfort of occupants when the building is buffeted by strong winds.
So, why didn't we see these buildings before .. Because the construction technique weren't there or because there weren't enough rich people around?

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In Manhattan, architects are building highest and fastest in Midtown. There, the supertalls aren't just tall—some of them are superskinny, too. A group of buildings along West 57th Street with residential units priced from $5 million to more than $100 million has transformed the Central Park perch into Billionaires Row, a signifier of America's new Gilded Age. In most cases, each unit is basically its own penthouse suite, occupying an entire floor of its building.
As I understand it - Elevator technique hasn't improved that much, and we are still waiting for the carbon elevators?

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The development of a super-strong carbon fibre rope is expected to revolutionise lift construction in skyscrapers by replacing the steel cables used in buildings today.
So, that in itself puts a limit on how needle-like a building can be?

So, it is something about people being willing to pay extra for the views.
And then Manhattan has a "lucky" underground that can actually support these needles? Without the structure collapsing because of shifty sands underneath?
You "just" need the structure itself to be stable?
After 9/11 you obviously also wonder what happens if you fly an airplane into them? Or whatabout earthquakes? Suppose they are designed to take a richter 5, but can they take anything bigger?

Questions could also be rephrased - imagine the aviation height limitation were lifted - could we then make these needles twice the height? Or where is the limit these days for the needle constructions?

Well, I could spend days just looking at these marvels - And, come to think of it - actually, I have -
Even with some video to show for it, which encapsulates the feelings pretty well I think.

Manhattan street singers (Corner of Park Ave and East 51st Street, Midtown, NYC)
432 Park Ave as backdrop.


If you have an easily read article about these construction issues for needle like constructions then please post a link. It will be very much appreciated.
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Old August 16th, 2014, 02:01 PM   #12837
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P.S .: The 30 story office building will surely be gone in 20 years or less. Condos in an 80 story tower there would be outrageously valuable.

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Old August 16th, 2014, 11:30 PM   #12838
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Old August 17th, 2014, 12:24 AM   #12839
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Does anyone knows the price for the apartments in this building ?
Exceedingly expensive. Cheapest unit on the market right now is a 332 square meter two bedroom apartment on the 40th floor of the building for 16.95 million $. The most expensive one listed right now is the 94th floor penthouse with 767 square meter and an 82,5 million $ price tag. The top level penthouse already sold for 95 million, making it the most expensive building in NYC for the time being (until 220CPS, Nordstrom, 111 57th street and 520 Park come along )
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Old August 17th, 2014, 12:55 AM   #12840
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Thanks, so this one is more expensive than One 57 ? Thought the area near central park was the most expensive in New York.
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