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Old December 1st, 2014, 10:03 PM   #14501
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Amazing how buildings that were once deemed 'supertalls' back in 1961 are now dwarfed by the modern skyline.

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Old December 1st, 2014, 10:50 PM   #14502
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Likewise. Personally, I think it looks taller than it is. I guess some people type just to prove they have fingers
Are you talking about me or the person I quoted?
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Old December 1st, 2014, 11:09 PM   #14503
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I love skyscrapers. With that said, here's a Bill Moyers piece about the buildings going up on Billionaires' Row. http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-s...#disqus_thread (p.s. - I'm posting this on the threads of the Billionaires' Row buildings because it makes perfect sense to do that.)
I'm not going to start a political argument. I'm a skyscraper fan, I love buildings and architecture.

Why post ideological bs that has no roots in mathematics or economics though, let's stick to architecture and the building itself.
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Old December 1st, 2014, 11:28 PM   #14504
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 12:28 AM   #14505
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That was a very subtle Coca Cola ad there hahaha
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 01:54 AM   #14506
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 02:43 AM   #14507
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It's looking so much better as more of the netting is exposed
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 02:45 AM   #14508
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Likewise. Personally, I think it looks taller than it is. I guess some people type just to prove they have fingers
I guess you missed my point . Of course a 1400ft building especially the height and width of 432 is going to make it tall but the pictures do not show it credit of its true height. Still i would love to see a 2000ft skycraper to the roof stand tall in nyc. I love the aerial shots someone posted earlier. Does anyone know if there are super tall buildings planned that are approved?
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 03:06 AM   #14509
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I love skyscrapers. With that said, here's a Bill Moyers piece about the buildings going up on Billionaires' Row.

http://billmoyers.com/episode/full-s...#disqus_thread
Good piece. As much as people might like to admire a building in a vacuum, they need to be reminded that there's a social and political cost to these buildings.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 04:39 AM   #14510
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 05:25 AM   #14511
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I'm not going to start a political argument. I'm a skyscraper fan, I love buildings and architecture.

Why post ideological bs that has no roots in mathematics or economics though, let's stick to architecture and the building itself.
Actually, this article is just plain wrong. As more super high end buildings are built, it decreases price inflation on the existing housing stock. If you have 100,000 millionaires looking to move into New York City, and only 3,000 units, then the units are priced so only the richest (in this case, billionaires) can afford them. If you have 100,000 units for 100,000 millionaires, then the units are priced much more reasonably. Which, is what needs to happen. The issue is, you have tons of millionaires in New York City, who are living in middle range units and paying a premium due to the market demand. If NYC added more units, then the middle range units can be returned to the middle class, and the millionaires can buy their fancy brand new digs. Towers like 432 Park are generally built for billionaires, but the older residential towers that some of these billionaires will vacate can be purchased by millionaires, and the residences the millionaires vacate can be purchased by upper middle class and ... you get the idea. It the "hand me down" of housing in New York City. "New" is often viewed as the best (especially to new money) and is priced accordingly.

And, thats keeping this on the real estate skyscraper spectrum. There are economical arguments to be made, as well.

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Old December 2nd, 2014, 05:54 AM   #14512
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Ye olde voodoo economics.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 06:06 AM   #14513
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I wish I could believe that but the seeming belief in high end real estate circles is that since it's New York, ordinary market psychology can be turned on its head. People think the highest end market can be milked because there's always some ego willing to push up the price because of the image of living the lavish life in New York. Years ago the idea you talk about of hand me downs from wealthiest to working class would have been completely logical, but with the middle and working poor so squeezed these days, while the wealthiest of the 1% are the only ones really gaining just don't know of anything about the housing market today makes any sense.

One thing though that liberals should be pounded for though is just how bureaucratic it is to build for the working and middle classes...rent control keeps buildings artificially off the market way beyond their time as well. And many people live in these units who economically if there were a real flexible market would move, and well could afford to, but the deal they have now is so good why leave? What's clear is that creative, innovative solutions have to be made by city leadership to open up potential sources of working/middle class development. In a great city such as this, which should belong to everyone... it's unacceptable for the truly bad days of old New York with class divisions to return. We have a great city and it should be a challenge, but a welcoming one.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 07:00 AM   #14514
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 09:52 AM   #14515
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The LED display on 230 Park is amazing.Though I wish they would save it only for special occasions like the holiday season. Without the full effect it looks more Gotham.

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Old December 2nd, 2014, 02:30 PM   #14516
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 06:05 PM   #14517
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The LED display on 230 Park is amazing.Though I wish they would save it only for special occasions like the holiday season. Without the full effect it looks more Gotham.



230 Park in the main poster for the Dark Knight (2008) :p
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 11:41 PM   #14518
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This thing is scary skinny. It is good to see NYC getting all there super talls going.
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 12:28 AM   #14519
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A-mazing!! What a hell of a town Gotham is.

I can see spider man slinging his web swinging from 432 to ESB and ending up at the World Trade Center. lol

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