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Old January 17th, 2015, 10:30 AM   #15101
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This has probably been posted, but on the off chance you haven't seen it, the full time lapse is available in all its glory.

http://www.432parkavenue.com/new-con...e-lapse-video/
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Old January 17th, 2015, 10:53 AM   #15102
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Old January 17th, 2015, 10:54 AM   #15103
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this looks like a warning light up top. Can't wait they install them for good. I like the semi-ominous glow they give off up top tall buildings. It was one of the cooler things about the old WTC at night.
432's gonna need a few because it's the tallest in the area and I don't think the parapet will be lit at night.

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Old January 17th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #15104
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Old January 17th, 2015, 06:06 PM   #15105
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This has probably been posted, but on the off chance you haven't seen it, the full time lapse is available in all its glory.

http://www.432parkavenue.com/new-con...e-lapse-video/
Well I for one hadn't seen it so thanks.

What about the underground floors visible at the start (underneath the crane)? Are those just garages etc for the building or is it part some city system?
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Old January 18th, 2015, 04:11 AM   #15106
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The new WTC has it, too. On the roof and spire.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 09:38 PM   #15107
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Well I for one hadn't seen it so thanks.

What about the underground floors visible at the start (underneath the crane)? Are those just garages etc for the building or is it part some city system?
Almost certainly garages. I'd guess that if you were able to live in that building, you wouldn't want your Rolls Royce or your Ferrari parked out on the street.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 10:31 PM   #15108
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Almost certainly garages. I'd guess that if you were able to live in that building, you wouldn't want your Rolls Royce or your Ferrari parked out on the street.


There are a very few parking spots underground but so few, that I don't even think there is one for every floor. Also, if I recall, they are very expensive, and must be purchased separately from the condo.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:09 AM   #15109
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Old January 19th, 2015, 01:05 PM   #15110
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that aerial above is spectacular, look at freaking New York! unbelievable . Density X 100
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Old January 19th, 2015, 02:32 PM   #15111
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There are a very few parking spots underground but so few, that I don't even think there is one for every floor. Also, if I recall, they are very expensive, and must be purchased separately from the condo.
Well, if you’re spending $90 million on the apartment, what’s a few more. Lots of wealthy people don't own cars though, they get driven around.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 04:50 PM   #15112
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Most really rich people in
Manhattan own cars and have
A driver on standby. He's there automatically to drive the kids to/from
School, and for spontaneous trips, They call
Him twenty minutes before they want to leave.

Driving in Manhattan is a headache.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #15113
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Old January 19th, 2015, 06:48 PM   #15114
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Well, if you’re spending $90 million on the apartment, what’s a few more. Lots of wealthy people don't own cars though, they get driven around.
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A driver on standby. He's there automatically to drive the kids to/from
School, and for spontaneous trips, They call
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Driving in Manhattan is a headache.



Exactly! That's why when a luxury tower like 432 or One57 go up, the last thing the developer thinks about is parking spots.
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Old January 19th, 2015, 10:50 PM   #15115
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Great picture by Francois Veilleux. As I was looking at it I was thinking about how the tallest parts of Manhattan are the most fun to look at, but the shorter parts are the most fun to "play" in (the Village, Tribeca, Hell's Kitchen, etc.).
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Old January 20th, 2015, 08:05 PM   #15116
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I've actually gotten used to the orange on the outside of the building, to the point that it is beginning to look weird without it.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 08:35 PM   #15117
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I don't understand this opinion, and I see it every once in a while in this thread. I guess some people don't know that there are two other towers in this height range under construction as we speak, on the same street, and a handful of others not too much shorter in addition, within the general area.

It sticks out like a sore thumb like the Empire State Building does. Or the World Trade Center.
There's a difference between simply being tall and present versus being tall but also attempting to gracefully compliment and adorn the skyline. Using your comparison, the ESB features a variety of design elements as it careens to the top to create a visual scene, something that represents a cap to the artistry involved and with the intention of knowing people would be often viewing the top almost exclusively. Conversely, 432, being true to its different function, all but turns its back on the same notion, evoking no differentiation throughout the tower as if to say "I don't care how you view me." It's an artistic option and for many it's appealing, but it does stray from traditional skyscraper language and thus handles the "sticking out like a sore thumb" issue in a decidedly different manner. Thus the differing opinions.

OMO, but I hope that helps.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 10:56 PM   #15118
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There's a difference between simply being tall and present versus being tall but also attempting to gracefully compliment and adorn the skyline. Using your comparison, the ESB features a variety of design elements as it careens to the top to create a visual scene, something that represents a cap to the artistry involved and with the intention of knowing people would be often viewing the top almost exclusively. Conversely, 432, being true to its different function, all but turns its back on the same notion, evoking no differentiation throughout the tower as if to say "I don't care how you view me." It's an artistic option and for many it's appealing, but it does stray from traditional skyscraper language and thus handles the "sticking out like a sore thumb" issue in a decidedly different manner. Thus the differing opinions.

OMO, but I hope that helps.
It sounds like you're disapproval of the look is leading you to attribute bad intentions to the design.

When you say things like "all but turns its back" and that it has an "I don't care how you view me", it's as if you're accusing the architect or builders of having a personal vendetta against you and that they are purposefully combative.

Perhaps a less personally attached interpretation would be more accurate. The intention probably wasn't "f-you buddy". I think the tower is intended to be viewed with appreciation and awe, just as are the more ornate, currently iconic towers.
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Old January 21st, 2015, 11:30 PM   #15119
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At any rate, it's not going to stand out like a sore thumb for long...
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Old January 22nd, 2015, 02:28 AM   #15120
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At any rate, it's not going to stand out like a sore thumb for long...
That's how I see it, love it or hate it, once 57th street starts feeling in, it won't be such a big deal.
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