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Old March 8th, 2012, 05:58 PM   #1561
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They are continuing a pour along the 56th street this morning...nice ballet going on with the buckets from one excavator to another. Strange that they are not pouring right over the edge as before. Looks as though they are waiting on either permits or contract to start excavating under the former townhouses as work has stopped now that demo is completed.
I think they are hoping to acquire more buildings on that side so for now have just demo'd and leveled everything out. Plus I believe they are going to build part of the retail spot first so they have time to figure the main building out in the next few months here.
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Old March 8th, 2012, 11:44 PM   #1562
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Why? There's enormous demand, and they're working constantly. This is not a certain city in the middle of the U.S.
I should have been more specific... I can't imagine that tower being built with that design. It looks kind of cartoonish with its height and slenderness.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 08:48 AM   #1563
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That does'n mean that it's impossible to build this tower.
And the shape will give a great variation on the skyline.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 09:44 AM   #1564
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Why? There's enormous demand, and they're working constantly. This is not a certain city in the middle of the U.S.

Your Chicago bashing is stupid and uncalled for, if you haven't noticed it's in THE SAME COUNTRY as New York. The two cities alone (save all the rest) make the USA one of the biggest skyscraper countries.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 02:12 PM   #1565
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didn't Building render have yet?
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Old March 9th, 2012, 05:25 PM   #1566
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And the shape will give a great variation on the skyline.
True, the segment of "Crap from Minecraft" is woefully underrepresented in the NYC skyline right now.





I'm sorry guys but I literally can't help it. It's undoubtedly structurally efficient, but as a component of the civic space this thing is grade-school quality in my eyes. With every "Oooh" and "Aaah" I find myself wanting to scream "It's just a friggin box!" I promise to try and hold back and certainly don't disavow other's their right to love and praise this thing - If it rocks your world then have at it. But for all the times I've come back and looked deeper into it I can only shake my head and think they're doing nothing more than filling space. An as-built project done by the engineer without any architect involved.

I'm trying to find something about it, I really am.
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Old March 9th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #1567
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I agree that it seems a little bland. Though...It also looks quite skinny - which may be the interesting thing about it. When you look at it actually rise in the sky, will the unique factor be that it appears a toothpick in comparison to other buildings? (Still bland.)
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Old March 11th, 2012, 07:03 PM   #1568
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didn't Building render have yet?
Extell is not really keen on releasing renders. We have seen that before (with one57).
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Old March 11th, 2012, 08:10 PM   #1569
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Extell is not really keen on releasing renders. We have seen that before (with one57).
This isn't an Extell building, it's a CIM development, I believe Macklowe was bought out but he may still have a small hand in this. Extell is behind 225 W 57th St, maybe you're thinking of that?

But permits for the actual tower have yet to be filed, so I wouldn't expect real renders until after that because they can still do some tweaking if they want.

The design is relatively uninteresting, so it'll come down to materials which should be very high end given the clientele they'll be courting. Long term, the contrast between this, One57, Tower Verre and whatever gets put up and 225 W 57th should be pretty impressive.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 06:40 PM   #1570
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They have broken through he foundation walls of the former townhouses today and are moving the excavation northward..the good weather is helping keep the excavation on pace.
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Old March 14th, 2012, 11:50 PM   #1571
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There is obviously much progress on the site.
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Old March 15th, 2012, 04:51 PM   #1572
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This morning they were installing a more permanent fence on 57 street, moving out farther covering most of the sidewalk..you can see in the cam that the bulkhead along 56th looks complete now.

p.s. Macklowe is definitely still prominently involved in this project as he recently sent out an email announcement of the excavation with an invitation to view the progress through the 432 web camera.

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Old March 16th, 2012, 07:35 AM   #1573
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For all those learning impared folks complaining about the design, it has not even been released yet, that was simply a MASSING MODEL

So no need to worry
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Old March 16th, 2012, 10:51 PM   #1574
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The 1380 figure is not final yet either, the height limit for the site is 1700 feet (518 meters)

Either way, it will be NY's second tallest tower
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Old March 17th, 2012, 01:38 AM   #1575
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The 1380 figure is not final yet either, the height limit for the site is 1700 feet (518 meters)
Wow what a height limit! In Adelaide we're usually capped at around 60m, with a absolute maximum of 103m. Though even 40m buildings are rejected as too big! I envy you NYC!
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Old March 17th, 2012, 04:27 AM   #1576
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Lol I wish it were 1700 feet. That'd be quite the building.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 04:12 PM   #1577
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that would be, like...

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Old March 17th, 2012, 04:48 PM   #1578
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Yes that's right, because it stands so far away from the ESB and One WTC.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 06:29 PM   #1579
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It's like a 100m race..If someone can run faster than others, reach the finish 2 seconds faster than others, you can't just say to him "hey buddy, run slower, you're too fast for this race"..Let him run, brake the records, let him stand out..There's nothing wrong with standing out..It simply means that borders are moved again..If you can than you should..
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Old March 17th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #1580
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I have nothing against this tower, I quite like it. I just find that laughable that the same people says in this thread "taller, better", and in the onewtc thread any suggestions that it should be taller meets arguments that it would destroy the skyline
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