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Old November 12th, 2015, 10:06 AM   #17021
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Old November 12th, 2015, 01:38 PM   #17022
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I think it's just a speculation to make money. With all that gain from the sale of the luxury apartments they could have invested a few more dollars in the design project. It's not modern minimalism, is ugly.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #17023
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Rafael should have thought of Gotham City when designed this project. How is beautiful to see pictures of the 432 from the bridges and from Central Park.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 05:33 PM   #17024
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It's not modern minimalism, is ugly.
Well, I think this is modern minimalism — and ugly. But this is more normality then exception in minimalism, for me at least.
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Old November 12th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #17025
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432 Park in Numbers: New Renderings and Superlatives Will Blow You Away

432 Park in Numbers: New Renderings and Superlatives Will Blow You Away
By Ondel Hylton
November 11, 2015
http://www.6sqft.com/432-park-in-numbers-new-renderings-and-superlatives-will-blow-you-away/

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Now that Macklowe Properties‘/CIM Group‘s 432 Park Avenue is nearing completion, with occupancy slated to begin in mid-2016 and 70 percent of units reportedly in contract, the development’s marketing and branding agency DBOX has released a bevy of never-before-seen images of our skyline’s newest icon. Being the tower of superlatives it is, it comes as no surprise that it boasts a marketing campaign to match. Employing sky-cams, drone photography, a million-dollar film, and breath-taking renderings and photography, 432 Park has perhaps the most elaborate promotional campaign ever conceived for a Manhattan condominium.








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Old November 12th, 2015, 08:18 PM   #17026
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Cool, the new renderings are showing that the drum floors are what will define the look of the building.

It seems that during construction almost everyone fixated on the repetitive grid of concrete. That's a significant part of the look but I've always believed that the open mechanical floors will do even more to define the building, like a stack of separated blocks or a shish kabob. Light will shine through, making for impressive photos at certain times of day. And now it appears that they'll be lit at night as well.
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Old November 13th, 2015, 10:02 PM   #17027
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Old November 13th, 2015, 10:15 PM   #17028
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Old November 14th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #17029
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Cool, the new renderings are showing that the drum floors are what will define the look of the building.

It seems that during construction almost everyone fixated on the repetitive grid of concrete. That's a significant part of the look but I've always believed that the open mechanical floors will do even more to define the building, like a stack of separated blocks or a shish kabob. Light will shine through, making for impressive photos at certain times of day. And now it appears that they'll be lit at night as well.
I've been aware of the impact of the drum floors since first seeing them in renders. I'm always felt that even though boxy buildings are unimaginative and boring, this one would be less bad without the drum floors. They break the repetitiveness of the floors thus taking away the perception of "endless" floors. With them being broken up into chunks of 12 it will be much easier to count/estimate the number of floors. Now instead of having one continuous stack of floors ("impressive") it will have six 12-story buildings stacked on top of each other ("less impressive"). Sigh. Aside from its height this building fails to impress me in every conceivable way.
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Old November 14th, 2015, 01:25 AM   #17030
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I get what you mean that it`s easier to comprehend the height with the gaps. But how is 6 times 12 floors not impressive.
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Old November 14th, 2015, 01:45 AM   #17031
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Even nicer, bigger renderings on Dbox, guys. So gorgeous!
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Old November 14th, 2015, 07:41 AM   #17032
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I get what you mean that it`s easier to comprehend the height with the gaps. But how is 6 times 12 floors not impressive.
I mean that the gaps/breaks allow my eyes to see 12 floors at once instead of 90 floors all at once, even though the building is that tall. It's an illusionary thing. It's easy to count 12 and then do quick math to figure out the approximate number of floors, but it would be much harder if there were no gaps. It would just look like a continuous series of lots and lots of floors.

I don't hate this building, but I certainly don't love it either.
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Old November 14th, 2015, 11:19 AM   #17033
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Even nicer, bigger renderings on Dbox, guys. So gorgeous!
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Old November 14th, 2015, 12:47 PM   #17034
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I mean that the gaps/breaks allow my eyes to see 12 floors at once instead of 90 floors all at once, even though the building is that tall. It's an illusionary thing. It's easy to count 12 and then do quick math to figure out the approximate number of floors, but it would be much harder if there were no gaps. It would just look like a continuous series of lots and lots of floors.

I don't hate this building, but I certainly don't love it either.
I see, well I have a poster of the twin towers at night with lit floors. It`s almost impossible to count the number of floors. I think you`ll like it then.
Btw would you have liked it more if it was clad in glass? Like 125 Greenwich St.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 05:35 AM   #17035
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Old November 15th, 2015, 07:07 AM   #17036
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I see, well I have a poster of the twin towers at night with lit floors. It`s almost impossible to count the number of floors. I think you`ll like it then.
Btw would you have liked it more if it was clad in glass? Like 125 Greenwich St.
I liked the original WTC towers for that reason even though I wasn't particularly excited about their architecture.

There are exceptions but I generally don't like all glass buildings because the lack of being able to see individual floors takes away the human sense of scale and makes them appear not as tall as they actually are. They end of looking like chunks of glass instead of buildings. Just look at 1WTC in contrast to 30 Park Place. I'll take 30 Park Place any day.
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Old November 15th, 2015, 05:23 PM   #17037
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Old November 16th, 2015, 05:35 AM   #17038
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Great view. With 432 pa completed, the view from time warner center must be exciting too.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 02:59 PM   #17039
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i like that golden building. very cool.
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Old November 16th, 2015, 03:12 PM   #17040
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I don't know what to think about it. Is it brilliant or is it the death of architecture?
I'm split, really.
So radically functional...
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