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Old November 29th, 2015, 06:18 PM   #17101
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Need to go visit nyc once a few more towers are up.
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Old November 29th, 2015, 10:38 PM   #17102
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Old November 30th, 2015, 04:35 AM   #17103
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Old November 30th, 2015, 07:01 AM   #17104
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Old November 30th, 2015, 07:12 AM   #17105
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Those grave stones look like mini skyscrapers.
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Old November 30th, 2015, 11:41 AM   #17106
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Old November 30th, 2015, 09:26 PM   #17107
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 04:13 AM   #17108
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I'm trying, I really am, but I simply can't abide. This thing is a detraction on the skyline, IMO. It comes across like a blunt object amidst a cluster of violins - Out of place and unattractive.

Between this, the proposed 2WTC and a couple others I fear I will find myself enjoying the NYC cityscape less and less. Sorry.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 05:11 AM   #17109
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You also have to take into account the fact that there are more projects of this size being built so the "detraction" will definantly offset.
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 09:31 AM   #17110
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Old December 3rd, 2015, 04:43 AM   #17111
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Nor do I find it attractive, not even upon reflection of the kind that allowed the original WTC 1&2 to be appreciated simply for their sheer size and stark dominance.

This building amounts to nothing more than an urban fact: it's just there and you can't say anything more about it. It doesn't particularly annoy. Even speculation about what it would like if faced, fenestrated or topped differently doesn't hold much interest for me.

As the skyline changes and more supertalls rise around it, it'll become like so many other purely-functional skyscrapers: lost in the crowd.

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Old December 3rd, 2015, 04:12 PM   #17112
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Old December 4th, 2015, 09:13 AM   #17113
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Old December 4th, 2015, 04:08 PM   #17114
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Old December 5th, 2015, 01:14 AM   #17115
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i thought it was a Russian, or was that One57?
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Old December 5th, 2015, 12:54 PM   #17116
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Old December 5th, 2015, 01:12 PM   #17117
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I don't like it. It is a prison in the sky for overpaid inmates with all the charm of a 1950s era commie block from east Berlin. Screw that tower. All that's missing is bars on the windows to complete the effect or washing lines hanging out...
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Old December 5th, 2015, 04:33 PM   #17118
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I don't like it. It is a prison in the sky for overpaid inmates with all the charm of a 1950s era commie block from east Berlin. Screw that tower. All that's missing is bars on the windows to complete the effect or washing lines hanging out...
OMG, such dramatic choice of words! Complete nonsense of course, but so intense! Inmates, commie block...before you get too depressed about it I can assure you that noone living there will ever feel anything remotely close to what you've just desrcibed behind those unrealistically large windows above NYC.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 05:06 PM   #17119
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There's no need for hyperbole, this tower has clear antecedents in fascist architecture, like the Colosseo Quadrato (though lacking what grace it had, or the fine materials). The materials, height and proportions of 432 add to the dehumanizing quality of the building. But hey, life goes on, especially in New York City. New York can take a building like this.
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Old December 5th, 2015, 07:21 PM   #17120
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People have been brainwashed to think every minimalist building is a commieblock. And you even have people comparing it to fascist architecture, even though Mussolini and Hitler (and Stalin) liked classical architecture.

Really, if that's the best criticism one has, it shows how little they understand modernism in general.
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