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Old February 18th, 2016, 04:22 PM   #17561
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I would prefer to see a building looking like this, much rather than a building looking like 30 Park Place, a concrete facade that tries to look like sandstone (but it's not), no thanks, NYC already has real historical gems. At least this building does not have that type of pretension. By the way, the mechanical floors look very nice.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 05:57 PM   #17562
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That looks pretty cool. Seems awfully bright for anyone living across the street from one of the lower ones though.
Screw them! They're not billionaires.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 07:00 PM   #17563
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Admittedly, I like that illumination scheme. Skeptical about how often this occurs though, and then again it only looks like that at night.



One of the better daytime photos. The less we have to see of it, the better.

Lol!! Thank God to be an alien as you not gonna have to live with it!
New york is the Meca of architecture,a laboratory where the foremost architects invent daily the city of tomorrow.
In Europ you rebuilt the past;the US,with Asia,build the future..
With all due respect you should focus on what is going on in Mecklenbourg or Dresden as it seems that you are quite fascinated by the rebuilding of pre war euro trash.
Moreover,as things evolve,most of the haters from yesterday are probably the lovers from tomorrow!
You are entitled to dislike and criticise 432!..just try to be less arrogant and sectarian as your lack of knowledge about NY and more generally architecture is not a special privilege!

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Old February 18th, 2016, 07:15 PM   #17564
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I would prefer to see a building looking like this, much rather than a building looking like 30 Park Place, a concrete facade that tries to look like sandstone (but it's not), no thanks, NYC already has real historical gems. At least this building does not have that type of pretension. By the way, the mechanical floors look very nice.

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Old February 18th, 2016, 07:23 PM   #17565
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A few more pics - click for full size:





Sorry but i can't resist re posting this!!
Just incredible!!!!!..A NEW ICON IS BORN!!!What a masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!
... 57th&1st,you made my day!God bless you!
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Old February 18th, 2016, 08:41 PM   #17566
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Sorry but i can't resist re posting this!!
Just incredible!!!!!..A NEW ICON IS BORN!!!What a masterpiece!!!!!!!!!!
... 57th&1st,you made my day!God bless you!
Thanks! Last night my wife (who hates pretty much everything about this building - aesthetically, economically, politically, you name it...) finally said "wow, that actually looks really good." I almost passed out from the shock.
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Old February 18th, 2016, 09:27 PM   #17567
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Did a little photoshop magic to the Earthcam photo that was posted (to show what it looks like with the other drums lit). Couldn't resist!

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Old February 19th, 2016, 04:20 PM   #17568
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The illumination for the mechanical floors seems well done, albeit a bit too bright for my taste. Certainly in line with the design traits of the building as a whole, though it only reinforces my desire to see the top of the structure treated differently, as to provide a better cap to the form. C'est la vie.

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Lol!! Thank God to be an alien as you not gonna have to live with it!
New york is the Meca of architecture,a laboratory where the foremost architects invent daily the city of tomorrow.
In Europ you rebuilt the past;the US,with Asia,build the future..
With all due respect you should focus on what is going on in Mecklenbourg or Dresden as it seems that you are quite fascinated by the rebuilding of pre war euro trash.
Moreover,as things evolve,most of the haters from yesterday are probably the lovers from tomorrow!
You are entitled to dislike and criticise 432!..just try to be less arrogant and sectarian as your lack of knowledge about NY and more generally architecture is not a special privilege!
But, yeah, it's the detractors that are impolite.
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Old February 19th, 2016, 05:45 PM   #17569
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My only problem with 432 Park Avenue is its leading spot in that part of New York's skyline, it's maybe too simple and boxy to be that imposing, but as we can see, there are many future projects which will kinda soften its appearance so it will look just fine. Also, I have to say that it really looks good from the street level.
IMO, it's really not as bad as I thought it would be, I kinda like it now.

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With all due respect you should focus on what is going on in Mecklenbourg or Dresden as it seems that you are quite fascinated by the rebuilding of pre war euro trash.
Euro trash!? I have no words for this.
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Old February 19th, 2016, 06:00 PM   #17570
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^ Exactly! 432 Park on its own right now is a bit out of place but it will definitely have company very soon so I'm not worried one bit!
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Old February 19th, 2016, 07:21 PM   #17571
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The illumination for the mechanical floors seems well done, albeit a bit too bright for my taste. Certainly in line with the design traits of the building as a whole, though it only reinforces my desire to see the top of the structure treated differently, as to provide a better cap to the form. C'est la vie.



But, yeah, it's the detractors that are impolite.

...Basically,your main problem is Schizophrenia??....
Vous etes pathétique!..mais c''est votre vie!..
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Old February 19th, 2016, 07:30 PM   #17572
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I don't think that's the way to discuss.
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Old February 19th, 2016, 07:55 PM   #17573
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Old February 19th, 2016, 09:06 PM   #17574
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Old February 19th, 2016, 09:30 PM   #17575
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Seems like you don't know much about architecture..
633 17th is international style;why the hell that comparison!??...
Do i compare hungarian gulasch with polish gulasch?
If you want to criticize, make it substantive please. And don't play dumb with me. I've compared one minimalism to another, there is no need to talk about gulasch here.
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Old February 19th, 2016, 10:35 PM   #17576
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I cannot wait to move in! ....cannot wait to see some interior shots.
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Old February 19th, 2016, 11:39 PM   #17577
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If you want to criticize, make it substantive please. And don't play dumb with me. I've compared one minimalism to another, there is no need to talk about gulasch here.
I find very interesting that the same can be said for some users that tend to constantly criticize the building without using real and sustainable arguments. I even quote myself, but still haven't got an answer about how are the proportions of the building failing, and what are the design elements that this building lacks.
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Old February 20th, 2016, 06:32 AM   #17578
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^ It looks so much better with the drums lit up at night, it will be nearly impossible now to miss this tower.
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Old February 20th, 2016, 11:33 AM   #17579
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If you want to criticize, make it substantive please. And don't play dumb with me. I've compared one minimalism to another, there is no need to talk about gulasch here.


Ok!..you don't like gulash?....maybe you like pierogi?..from afar nothing looks like a ravioli like a pierogi!..but,in fact,it is very different!
Maybe you need glasses and can't see the subtle detailing; consequently all these blurry buildings become minimalist for you!
633 17th is not a minimalist building.
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Old February 20th, 2016, 12:01 PM   #17580
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I find very interesting that the same can be said for some users that tend to constantly criticize the building without using real and sustainable arguments. I even quote myself, but still haven't got an answer about how are the proportions of the building failing, and what are the design elements that this building lacks.
Speaking of some users: do you know what's the real problem? There are people who simply cannot accept the fact, that someone might don't like this building. I can name literally a hundred beautiful (mostly old) buildings in NYC that I love and it's acknowledged by everyone. Once I write something less flattering about one building out of many, I will always hear that I know nothing about architecture, I am blind and I can't see the true beauty/genius/whatever.

But I like this thread as a whole anyway.
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