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Old February 29th, 2016, 09:06 PM   #17621
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I am amazed at the growth New York City is seeing, its truly spectacular. I love New York so much.
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Old March 1st, 2016, 02:40 AM   #17622
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Old March 1st, 2016, 04:31 PM   #17623
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cant say anything,,,just wow...
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Old March 1st, 2016, 09:27 PM   #17624
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 12:00 AM   #17625
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Soon the tower will start appearing in every aerial shot of NYC in new movies, that's 4 sure!
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 12:08 AM   #17626
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the Baccarat Tower looks fine af in that last shot.
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 12:12 AM   #17627
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Soon the tower will start appearing in every aerial shot of NYC in new movies, that's 4 sure!
I think so as well
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 08:05 AM   #17628
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but mechanical floors don't count against total buildable square footage. So if they weren't there, it's not like they could've built 10 additional floors of condos -- the tower would've just been 10 floors shorter (and the value of the uppermost units with the best views would've dropped precipitously).

On top of that, as has been discussed here a few times, the open air floors create wind breaks that relieve lateral stress and reduce sway. You'll see this in these ultra skinny towers, most notably 111 W. 57th right down the street, which has at least 3 wind breaks.

And from a pure aesthetic point of view, I think the open mech floors and the "floating towers" illusion improves the design 100x over a version where every floor has windows.
That makes sense. I got "trapped" by the word mechanical. I took it too literally. I was thinking all the mechanical floors were for "mechanical" equipment, window washing, air conditioning units, etc. So I was wondering why they needed so many?
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 09:32 AM   #17629
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 03:57 PM   #17630
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That makes sense. I got "trapped" by the word mechanical. I took it too literally. I was thinking all the mechanical floors were for "mechanical" equipment, window washing, air conditioning units, etc. So I was wondering why they needed so many?
The mechanical floors are for the building services that are the "life systems" so to speak for the structure. Think of it like the support systems of the human body, such as the nervous, respiration, blood, etc. The mechanical floors house pumps for water, fire protection, HVAC (heating, ventilation, air conditioning), plumbing. Remember because this is a tall building, there are water tanks and pumps required to get water up to the high floors, since normal water pressure is insufficient to force water up beyond a few floors. These are within the mechanical floors.

In 432 Park Avenue, the architect Rafael Vinoly chose to use the mechanical floors as an architectural feature item, enclosing the mechanical items within the so-called "drums", and exposed the drums to be highlighted within the exterior columns to give the sections of livable floors the appearance of floating. In other tall buildings, the mechanical floors may look like regular floors. To an observer outside the building, they may look like livable, occupied floors.
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 04:52 PM   #17631
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What's the point of those "mechanical floors"? It seems like a whole lot of empty space. Around those drums there's nothing, and 10 floors of it? At about 60million per floor, that's 600million down the "mechanical drain". I don't get it.
Adding to marcatio's response, every highrise has space dedicated to these things and the concept of them taking up whole floors is quite common. It ensures that the crude and necessary equipment that keeps the building viable for occupancy has space to do its job and that the caretakers of that equipment can do their job without disturbing the other patrons. Sometimes this nuance is incorporated into the design, sometimes it's masked as marcatio said, made to look like a normal floor from the outside. But one way or the other there is mechanical space in every skyscraper and it doesn't appear the amount dedicated for 432 is extremely different.
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 02:01 AM   #17632
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 11:00 AM   #17633
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not going to comment on how beautifull 432 Park Ave is (other than maybe it needs a better name.... Stick?), just wanted to ask what is that cascade residential of the first plan, middle left. does it have a thread here?
and secondly, the skyscraper with tapered top, just left of 432, havent found it on SSC and would appreciate if you could direct me.

btw, going to NYC this May, cant wait
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 01:54 PM   #17634
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not going to comment on how beautifull 432 Park Ave is (other than maybe it needs a better name.... Stick?), just wanted to ask what is that cascade residential of the first plan, middle left. does it have a thread here?
and secondly, the skyscraper with tapered top, just left of 432, havent found it on SSC and would appreciate if you could direct me.

btw, going to NYC this May, cant wait
Cascade building:
770 11th Avenue (never knew it by this name xD.. only by mercedes house xD)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1012823

Tapered top:
You mean 1715 Broadway?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1196881

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CitySpire Center?
Have never seen a forum either of this one.. can't help you with that.

And btw.. I envy you xD. Was supposed to go to NY this summer with a few friends but money got in the way for one of them. We all go.. or no1 goes kind of thing.
Have a nice trip though!
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 03:11 PM   #17635
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Old March 4th, 2016, 05:21 AM   #17636
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but mechanical floors don't count against total buildable square footage. So if they weren't there, it's not like they could've built 10 additional floors of condos -- the tower would've just been 10 floors shorter (and the value of the uppermost units with the best views would've dropped precipitously).

On top of that, as has been discussed here a few times, the open air floors create wind breaks that relieve lateral stress and reduce sway. You'll see this in these ultra skinny towers, most notably 111 W. 57th right down the street, which has at least 3 wind breaks.

And from a pure aesthetic point of view, I think the open mech floors and the "floating towers" illusion improves the design 100x over a version where every floor has windows.

You are perfectly correct.
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Old March 4th, 2016, 09:46 AM   #17637
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Tapered top:
You mean 1715 Broadway?
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1196881

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CitySpire Center?
Have never seen a forum either of this one.. can't help you with that.
well, actually, I've meant the second tallest in that photo. it surely must have it's thread on SSC...
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Old March 4th, 2016, 12:13 PM   #17638
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oh.. that's an easy one xD
One57:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=776476
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Old March 4th, 2016, 02:53 PM   #17639
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that's an easy one xD
thought so, thanks!
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Old March 4th, 2016, 04:41 PM   #17640
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Picture from early last night. the construction crane at very bottom left is 520 Park Ave designed by Stern, and will rise to level of GM building on the right. 425 Park designed by Foster will appear in this view, I think, between 520 and 432 and top out between the two. Should be very nice view. One Vanderbilt designed by KPF, about 15 blocks south and may be somewhere around GM but will appear smaller because of distance.

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