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Old October 27th, 2016, 12:41 AM   #18001
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The photos on the previous page are truly breathtaking, I've never seen the building pictured from around the entrance, such a nice monolith, they choose amazing materials - the marble tiles. The birch trees also complement the building's entrance in a very nice way.
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Old October 28th, 2016, 08:03 AM   #18002
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To folow the same patern as the technical floors....
But it doesn't. There are 12 floors between mechanical floors, but the inset windows are on 7 and 8.
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Old October 29th, 2016, 06:32 PM   #18003
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If the building were 6 (apparent) floors taller they could have made the pattern:

12,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12

Or if was 8 floors shorter:

12,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12

Since it's not, it's:

6,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12,2,12

Since the podium and other buildings obscure views of the bottom from many angles, I guess it's better that the 6 be at the bottom rather than on the top.
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Old October 31st, 2016, 03:38 AM   #18004
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Old October 31st, 2016, 05:57 AM   #18005
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Old November 3rd, 2016, 01:43 AM   #18006
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Could be a screenshot from a batman movie.

Untitled by Levi Mandel (@levimandel), on Flickr
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Old November 3rd, 2016, 02:24 AM   #18007
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Old November 4th, 2016, 10:23 AM   #18008
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There they are ! The first HD pictures of the now completed 432 Park Avenue. Thank you JuanPaulo.
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Old November 4th, 2016, 07:26 PM   #18009
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yeah.. a few months ago these were all renders xD
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Old November 4th, 2016, 08:55 PM   #18010
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Forgive me for my ignorance and slightly off topic but can someone explain this to me?

Okay, so 432 is the highest roof in NYC at 1,396 feet, surpassing One WTC at 1,368 feet.
However, we all know 1,368 feet is the parapet, and the actual roof is 1,334 feet, 8 inches (lower than the original towers' roof heights 1,368/1,362 ft).
And from what I've seen in pictures, 432 has a two story parapet and that is what makes it 1,396 feet. Each floor is 15 feet, 6 inches tall, so would that mean the actual roof is 1,365 feet?
Therefore making it the second highest roof ever built in NYC behind the original One WTC?
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Old November 4th, 2016, 09:11 PM   #18011
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This picture is a perfect example of what I'm asking

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Old November 4th, 2016, 11:41 PM   #18012
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I'll come at this from a different angle: why does it matter?

The roof height is not held to be the height of the building for purposes of ranking. It's the architectural top that is used for that.

The WTC is measured to the height of its spire, which is its architectural top. 432 is measured to the top of that parapet, which is its architectural top.


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Forgive me for my ignorance and slightly off topic but can someone explain this to me?

Okay, so 432 is the highest roof in NYC at 1,396 feet, surpassing One WTC at 1,368 feet.
However, we all know 1,368 feet is the parapet, and the actual roof is 1,334 feet, 8 inches (lower than the original towers' roof heights 1,368/1,362 ft).
And from what I've seen in pictures, 432 has a two story parapet and that is what makes it 1,396 feet. Each floor is 15 feet, 6 inches tall, so would that mean the actual roof is 1,365 feet?
Therefore making it the second highest roof ever built in NYC behind the original One WTC?
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Old November 5th, 2016, 04:54 AM   #18013
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No, that's just how the ctbuh measures it.
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Old November 5th, 2016, 06:42 AM   #18014
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No, that's just how the ctbuh measures it.
The debate about height measurement is long and can be somewhat acrimonious. I'm not about to revisit it except to say that all industries have an agreed upon or accepted standard by which the conduct themselves. Or they at least try to as it aids interaction through common reference points. The CTBUH criteria seems to be very close to a de facto.

Of course, anyone, or any organisation, can have their own criteria and calculations. But beware; too many cooks, and all that...
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Old November 6th, 2016, 10:54 PM   #18015
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I'll come at this from a different angle: why does it matter?

The roof height is not held to be the height of the building for purposes of ranking. It's the architectural top that is used for that.

The WTC is measured to the height of its spire, which is its architectural top. 432 is measured to the top of that parapet, which is its architectural top.

Thank you for the response. And well for me it matters simply because I wanted to know.
In regards to what you said, I already knew architectural height is what officially counts.
You're also right, officially One WTC is counted to the spire and 432 is counted to the parapet.
However, that wasn't my question.
I simply wanted to know if what I said is correct, because after all I could be wrong.
But based on my calculations, 432's roof is technically 1,365' while the official architectural height is 1,396'.
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Old November 6th, 2016, 11:07 PM   #18016
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ROOF HEIGHTS is the ONLY way thats counts and matters. OBEY that or I ROOFY YOU CTBUH is just a wrongdoing cult. Regards from ROOFHEIGHT CRUSADER.
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Old November 7th, 2016, 12:14 AM   #18017
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ROOF HEIGHTS is the ONLY way thats counts and matters. OBEY that or I ROOFY YOU CTBUH is just a wrongdoing cult. Regards from ROOFHEIGHT CRUSADER.
You mean the roof (or perhaps ceiling) of the highest habitable floor?
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Old November 7th, 2016, 12:20 AM   #18018
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Yes, I understand. That's why I said I was coming at it from another angle.

And I did that to illustrate the problem in your question. That being that you're using various bit of data to try and arrive at a final figure that many folks would like to use for the true height of a building, namely the roof height. It illustrates the kind of endless debate we'd have as people twisted the data and calculation methods.

Instead, the architectural top is a no-brainer.


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Thank you for the response. And well for me it matters simply because I wanted to know.
In regards to what you said, I already knew architectural height is what officially counts.
You're also right, officially One WTC is counted to the spire and 432 is counted to the parapet.
However, that wasn't my question.
I simply wanted to know if what I said is correct, because after all I could be wrong.
But based on my calculations, 432's roof is technically 1,365' while the official architectural height is 1,396'.
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Old November 7th, 2016, 10:52 PM   #18019
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A couple pics from my trip to NYC this summer, they are quite old but I felt they were worth sharing.

432 park as seen from the metropolitan musem roof garden. I can't get over how slender and imposing this building is, can't wait for the other 57th street scrapers to rise



Photo taken from Harlem, it's crazy the impact this building has on the midtown skyline, even from street level several miles away.

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Old November 8th, 2016, 12:35 AM   #18020
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You mean the roof (or perhaps ceiling) of the highest habitable floor?
EXACTLY what I ment. Thanks
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