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Old September 14th, 2010, 05:47 PM   #21
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You've not even seen a detailed design but already know it looks like ass?
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Old January 5th, 2011, 11:16 PM   #22
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Two-in-One Hotel Tower to Rise 67 Stories on Broadway
Tuesday, January 4, 2011, by Pete Davies

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The new year is looking up, and rising to the occasion is a new twin pack of hotels from Marriott set to grow at Broadway and West 54th Street. The site, 1717 Broadway, is where developer Harry Gross and his Granite Broadway Development team have been putting things in place over the past decade by buying up the neighbors and gathering air rights from nearby theaters. The 10,000-square-foot lot will be home to a 716-foot, 67-story tower from architect Nobutaka Ashihara. That will make this Marriott one of the tallest hotels in town, just 35' shorter than the the Mandarin Oriental at the Time Warner Center, and more than 120' taller than the Trump International.

The long-term plan at 1717 Broadway. >>
An Ashihara brochure [pdf] describes the plan as "two independent hotels with separate characters, selected service and extended stay, vertically stacked." Renders show a grove of trees on top, encircling the mechanicals, which might best be viewed from the heights of Christian de Portzamparc's new Carnegie 57, now rising to 953 feet just a few blocks away. Vistas from up high here should be spectacular, which sort of explains why they've dubbed this the Marriott Central Park.

Down low along Broadway, just north of where David Letterman does his shtick and backing up to the stalled site at 250 West 55th Street, the Frankentower will present a six-story block in glass with retail, restaurants and hotel lobby. The Buildings Department has approved the plan and the Schedule A lays out the room scheme. Rising above the base will be a Courtyard Inn, covering floors 7-31, with 14 rooms per floor. On top of that will be a 30-story Residence Inn with 9 rooms per floor. The two-in-one combo will offer visitors the option of long term stays, a profitable package popular with both hoteliers and guests, especially in these budget conscious times.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 02:53 AM   #23
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If the room count of Courtyard Inn and Residence Inn are combined, the building would have 620 rooms. Residence Inn has 270 rooms and Courtyard Inn has 350.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 06:25 PM   #24
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Can't believe they're tearing that building down, what's wrong with New York, first the Drake hotel and now this, don't they know how to preserve anything...
How can anyone compare this:


with Drake Hotel:

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Old February 8th, 2011, 02:23 AM   #25
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How can you not notice the sarcasm in his post?
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Old February 8th, 2011, 05:47 AM   #26
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I can't even hear the sarcasm.
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Old April 13th, 2011, 11:03 PM   #27
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Per Wired New York, this building is now under construction.

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Monday, March 7, they started digging on the site to build the foundation. So it looks as if the new Marriott is finally underway.
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Yep, just passed by and excavation is well under way.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 01:03 PM   #28
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Good to read that.
BTW Digging is not construction. I think its status will change as soon as someone makes an update of work on the foundation.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 02:57 PM   #29
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BTW Digging is not construction....
I agree. I think there's still a chance that this site will be combined with the adjacent site in which another hotel of 35 stories is scheduled to rise.
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Old April 16th, 2011, 10:53 PM   #30
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Old April 17th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #31
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Thanks for the updates. Though the render on that project board looks completely different than the renders that have been posted in this thread. Is it the right site or did they change the design?
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billboard is for an already completed apartment building

you can see it in the top center of the first pic

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Oh I didn't notice. Weird spot to put that billboard!
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Oh I didn't notice. Weird spot to put that billboard!
The rental office for the apartment shown in the billboard is probably located in the little building on which the billboard is located.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #35
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I found the render:

http://www.naa-arch.com/img/naa_brochure2009.pdf

It's under 54th and B'Way. It's a slender glass tower. It's not spectacular, but it is far better than what's currently on the site.



This has potential, alot better than what was there..
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Old May 5th, 2011, 02:07 AM   #36
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Wow, I like it. It's really elegant. It's about time that they get rid of that old shack and replace it with something nice.
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Well at less that building that was there is gone. The design of this building is still ugly.
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Well at less that building that was there is gone. The design of this building is still ugly.
Agreed. Better to tear down the old building, but the design of the new one is rather boring and without identity.
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May I ask where you guys have seen the design? The only pic shown here is the white massing of the tower and a small pic of the lower part. I have not seen the design.

I think the massing of the building is really nice for this spot. I passed by today, and the plot is really small for a 200m+ building!
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Old August 10th, 2011, 02:49 PM   #40
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The design seems to have changed a little.



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/re...1&ref=business

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Two Marriott Brands Are to Share Space in Manhattan Tower
By JANE L. LEVERE
Published: August 10, 2011



Construction will start soon on one of New York’s largest hotel projects, a 68-story high-rise at the northwest corner of Broadway and 54th Street with more than 600 rooms, according to officials of Granite Broadway Development and Marriott International.

The new Courtyard and Residence Inn hotels are expected to open in late 2013.

In addition to two hotels, a 68-story high-rise at Broadway and 54th Street would house a restaurant and ground-floor shops.
The project, in the works for at least a decade, will include a 378-room Courtyard by Marriott hotel and a 261-room Residence Inn by Marriott hotel, to be known as the Courtyard and Residence Inn Manhattan/Central Park.

Operated under a franchise agreement between Granite Broadway Development and Marriott International, the hotels will be managed by Interstate Hotels and Resorts and are expected to open in late 2013.

Company officials planned to announce the project Wednesday.

John Fox, a senior vice president in New York of PKF Consulting USA, a hotel consulting company, said the two hotels combined would be the largest new hotel project in New York since the 863-room Westin New York at Times Square opened in 2002 at the southeast corner of Eighth Avenue and 43rd Street. A 607-room Intercontinental hotel opened last year at 300 West 44th Street.

Granite Broadway Development and Marriott say the new building will be the tallest in New York used strictly for lodging. Mr. Fox said this claim was accurate, noting that the new Marriott building, expected to reach almost 753 feet, would exceed the height of the Four Seasons Hotel on the north side of 57th Street between Madison and Park Avenues, which is 52 stories, or 682 feet high.

Marriott has 33 properties, including furnished apartments, under nine brands in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens. Of the hotels, it manages approximately half, while the others are franchised. According to David Marriott, chief operations officer for the company’s eastern region, the Americas, New York is Marriott’s second-largest revenue generator in the United States, after Washington; the New York Marriott Marquis is the company’s top revenue generator worldwide.

The Gross family, which owns Granite Broadway Development, owns five Marriott hotels, one in Philadelphia; one in Ghent, Belgium; and three in New York: the Courtyard New York JFK Airport, the Courtyard New York Manhattan/Times Square South and the Residence Inn Manhattan/Times Square.

When construction on the Residence Inn Manhattan/Times Square began in 2004, Harry Gross, the president of Granite Broadway Development, said he planned to start building another Marriott hotel at 54th Street and Broadway in 2005.

Although Mr. Gross declined to be interviewed about the new project, documents from the New York City Department of Finance show the Gross family bought three lots on the northwest corner of 54th Street and Broadway in 2001, and later acquired development rights, using available space from two lots on the southwest corner of 55th Street and Broadway.

Designed by Nobutaka Ashihara, the tower will have a main entrance and arrival lobby on West 54th Street; the lobby for the Residence Inn will be on the building’s third floor, and the Courtyard lobby will be on the fourth floor. Courtyard guest rooms will be on floors 6 through 32, while Residence Inn rooms will be on floors 36 through 64; each hotel will have its own elevator banks.

The project will include ground-floor retail space; a leased restaurant on the second floor; a lounge and terrace with outdoor seating and views of Broadway on the fifth floor; and a fitness center, for use by guests of both hotels, on the 34th floor.

The lobby of the Courtyard, whose brand is geared to business travelers, will have a contemporary design, flexible space and what Marriott calls a GoBoard, a 55-inch interactive touch screen where guests can obtain local information and news headlines. The Residence Inn, an extended-stay hotel, will offer guests suites with kitchens. Since the Residence Inn will sit above the Courtyard, Marriott officials said it would also offer the project’s best views of the city and Central Park.

Hotel industry experts expect the project to do well, despite the recent surge in the number of hotels in the New York market. According to Smith Travel Research, a lodging research company, there are 544 hotels, with about 100,500 rooms, in the New York metropolitan statistical area, including 33 that have opened in the last 12 months, with about 5,700 rooms.

An additional 171 hotels, with a total of about 20,700 rooms, are in construction or in various stages of planning, not all of which will open. These figures do not include the two new Marriott hotels.

Mr. Fox said he expected that demand for rooms in New York would continue to be very strong, and he predicted room rates would regain their 2008 peak by 2013.

Bjorn Hanson, the divisional dean of the Preston Robert Tisch Center for Hospitality, Tourism and Sports Management at New York University, said the two Marriott hotels could reduce their annual operating expenses by more than 5 percent by sharing one building, facilities like the fitness center, management and administrative staff, and departments like housekeeping and marketing.

He also said the new project’s visibility because of its location and height would be a competitive advantage, “the equivalent of numerous billboards without the expense.”

One hurdle the project could face, aside from the economy, is development delays. As Mr. Marriott said, “There is always a construction challenge or two when you build in New York.”
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