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Old October 12th, 2012, 03:19 PM   #61
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Minimum speed limit 120? Blimey... Or is that an advisory limit?
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Old October 12th, 2012, 03:57 PM   #62
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Where can you drive 115 km/h?
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Old October 12th, 2012, 04:08 PM   #63
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So you think people go faster than 130 when they suffer road rage ?
No, I think that's true only for some drivers, and I would swap the sentence: they get rage BECAUSE they would like to go fast even if traffic conditions don't allow to do that.

If one drives faster than the average, he'll be surrounded by a lot of "slow" vehicles, and if the number of vehicles is high he simply won't have enough space to keep up with the speed he had in mind.

I'm not a radical no-noer about highway speed, but I would think twice about it due to this:
1) many ask for raising the limit -at least in Italy- without compensating with the necessary higher driving skills (our drivers are not skilled about road cooperation, which is mandatory for safe speeding) and infrastructure upgrades (which cost money)
2) only a small % of all traffic would actually benefit from higher limits, and mostly for leisure reasons; in general I don't find it an issue economically or socially worth discussing
3) the average speed of traffic would remain pretty much the same, so raising the top speed of the faster vehicles would introduce a wider gap, which is bad for traffic flow; and keeping a smooth flow is a main point to pursue in road management, more than aiming at a higher average speed.

There had been a time in which I drove a constant 170... then, due to personal awareness AND cruise control AND more effective speed controls with the "Tutor" system, I discovered that going 130 or even less is not so much time consuming, and I get to destination way more relaxed.

Since I use to drive 110-130, having vehicles going much faster around me would require some extra care I should put, for the benefit of others. I don't see the point.

And yes, in recent years the speeding issue got more under control. There's still a lot of work to do, about speed awareness and lane discipline as well.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 03:39 PM   #64
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Are there any 140 km/h signs on Bulgarian motorways? And what about the border speed limit signs? Does somebody have a picture of one?
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Old October 13th, 2012, 03:51 PM   #65
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on the nardo test racetrack there is a section with a speed limit of 240 there is a sign,i saw it once in the german motorcycle magazin ps as they tried to push the new honda cbr 1100 xx to 300km/h but unfortunately i cant find it
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Old October 13th, 2012, 04:48 PM   #66
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Are there any 140 km/h signs on Bulgarian motorways? And what about the border speed limit signs? Does somebody have a picture of one?
No. The road signs at the border entry are from the 1980s and they are not true.

Currently, the traffic law specifies the default speed limit is 140 km/h for motorways, 90 for normal roads and 50 in residential areas.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 06:11 PM   #67
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Here's an interesting picture of speed limits in Europe, although I'm not sure whether the image is outdated or not:



Countries in green have green motorways signs, countries in this light purplish color have blue motorway signs.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #68
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Only slightly. Sweden has gone up to 120, and Netherlands up to 130. I've heard rumors that Spain is going to upgrade their speed limits to 130 as well.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 06:31 PM   #69
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and Bulgaria is 140
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Old October 13th, 2012, 06:33 PM   #70
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130 km/h

In brazil is 120 km/h
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Old October 13th, 2012, 06:39 PM   #71
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That map has many errors, both for speed limits and motorway signage colors.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 07:10 PM   #72
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I thought it was fairly accurate. Russia wrong colour perhaps?
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Old October 13th, 2012, 07:37 PM   #73
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Motorways in Rep. of Moldova?
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Old October 13th, 2012, 09:36 PM   #74
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In Kosovo SL is 130 km/h.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #75
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I thought it was fairly accurate...
I don't see that many errors either. I guess that someone is going to release the updated version...

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Motorways in Rep. of Moldova?
Question mark goes for countries like Montenegro as well. Maybe, for instance, Moldova has a motorway speed limit written in their law, which will come into force later on once the country opens its first kilometers of a motorway, whenever that happens...

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Old October 13th, 2012, 10:10 PM   #76
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I suspect the Moldovan 110 km/h limit (if it actually exists) is a leftover from Soviet times.

Anyway, Bulgaria also has 140 km/h, Montenegro has no motorways, the Czech Republic has green signs and Slovakia also has green signs. The speed limit on motorways in the Netherlands and Lithuania is 130 km/h and 120 km/h in Sweden.

That's 7 or 8 errors on this map.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 10:27 PM   #77
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Czechia and Slovakia use a blue motorway sign, that's probably why they colored them blue, but direction signs are green.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #78
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Next one in Europe to increase ... the UK?

Government plans to raise speed limit to 80mph

I wonder which country will first venture a general limit of 150 km/h. Austria, France or Italy could do it without problems IMO - it is always possible to signpost lower limits where appropriate.
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Old October 14th, 2012, 01:46 AM   #79
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That's going into a dangerous territory because people always drive faster than the speed limit.
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Old October 14th, 2012, 10:05 AM   #80
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Are there any 140 km/h signs on Bulgarian motorways?
Actually you don't need signs that state the standard speed-limit and it will be odd to have them. If the law says 140 on this type of road, you put signs only where the speed limit is different. And then, seeing this sign will mean that after it the speed-limit is again 140 km/h. Same as in the towns and villages - you don't have the 50 km/h sign at every corner, do you?
But not replacing the old border information signage about speed-limits or not having such at all is a great fault of the authorities...

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