PROJECT | Radisson Blu Scandinavia Hotel (Kim Utzon) l 130m l 36 fl l App

[aim1]

Originally Posted by ramblersen

And what qualifies Kim Utzon for anything really...

I agree to the utmost

[TMG]

, visit Kalkbrænderihavnen in the northern harbour of CPH and you will see.

[Never give up]

I´m happy that you are going to follow the hotel extension from the the top of the spiral stairs Hafnia, as I don´t have the nerve to go up there.
On the other hand I think I will follow it from KUA as shown on the photo as I can follow two projects at the same time.
Demolition coming along nicely.




and here is a view of the almost finished Metrolpol building and the future "Rambla" which will eventually lead into the area in the first photo.
Lots of activity in the ground floor. What is it going to be, cafés, shops??
Future water basin on the right connecting with the landscape canal a few meters away.

[Hafnia]

Thank you Never give up, the spire is one my favourite places in town, especially when you hear and feel the old tower moving at windy days

About the hotelproject, no news from here except that I today read in Børsen that it' s still considered as a soon upcoming project that will be finished in 2013.
Believe me I really try to find any clues that lead to some kind of indication or speculation about the development..I even wrote Wenass-gruppen, but of course, with out any result.

Batteriet will in a few years time have changes radically, hopefully to a new part of town that we'll be proud of.

[Hafnia]

The founder of Wenass-Gruppen Mr.Lars Wenass, in Skt Petersborg, as you can read in this article from the norwegian RBNett, telling that the Wenass-Gruppen, despite the international oconomicially crises, where able to create a surplus of 852 mill. Nkr in 2009, quite impressive these days.

It apparent also they does heavy financiel investment in Moscow and in Skt. Petersburg, so that means they maybe have theire focus pointed in other directions than the Hotel Radisson Blu Scandinavia.
RBNett

[Never give up]

Posted this one by mistake on the Copenhagen thread, where of course it could be, Islands Brygge being in Copenhagen and the Radisson hotel definately (visually)

....yet another angle on this project.

[Hafnia]

Funny how the hotel looks good from this angel, because of the better proportions, but also due the high density around it, and the rising attitude.

Well done Ngu

[moveteam]

A boring Sunday:

[Hafnia]

The owner the Radisson Blue Scandinavia Hotel, Wenass-gruppen, continously increasing the numbers of hotels, this time in Düsseldorf, and according to the article, Lars Wenass say that the hotel market is going up, this hopefully will speed up the plans for the danish hotel.

http://www.andalsnes-avis.no/nyheter/article280741.ece

[ramblersen]

Wrong thread

[Hafnia]

bit of an anti post this one, just to show that nothing, absolutely nothing has progressed for the Radisson Blu Scandinavia Hotel.
But i´m still waiting for good news . Since D'angleterre and 2 times Scandic, has decided to renovate their hotels, and with the arrivel of all the new hotels - including the cool Tivoli hotel were this picture is taken from - Scandinavia MUST soon do something radical. They recently had a terrible restaurant review at the old thai restaurant "The blue elephant", and when you read what the guests are writing about the hotel, something has to change.

[Pisling]

Couldn't agree more. And nice shot...

[moveteam]

Desperate for news, but here is some good news for the hotel business in DK:

Danske hoteller er blevet et hit
Mandag den 9. maj 2011, 09:37

Både udenlandske og danske turister er vendt tilbage til de danske hoteller, der har massiv fremgang.

Danske hoteller er populære. Både hos danskerne og de udenlandske turister. Til gengæld går det tilbage for feriecentre og vandrerhjem.

Antallet af overnatninger på de danske hoteller er nu steget 14 måneder i træk, viser nye tal fra Danmarks Statistik.

Samlet blev der i marts foretaget 1.026.400 overnatninger på hoteller feriecentre og vandrerhjem i marts. Det er en stigning på 18.000 overnatninger eller to procent.

Og det er netop hotellerne, der trækker fremgangen. Antallet af hotelovernatninger steg med ni procent til 760.000 - det er det højeste marts-tal siden statistikkens start.

Omvendt faldt antallet af overnatninger på feriecentre med 42.000 eller 17 procent i marts, hvoraf hovedparten skyldes en nedgang i danske overnatninger på 39.000.

Vandrerhjem havde 6000 eller otte procent færre overnatninger end i marts 2010, viser tal fra Danmarks Statistik.

Samlet var de 342.000 overnatninger fra udenlandske turister, og det er en stigning på 37.000 eller 12 procent sammenlignet med samme måned året før.

Gæster fra Sverige og Norge havde 7000 flere overnatninger, svarende til en stigning på seks procent, mens tyskerne overnattede tre procent flere gange.

[Hafnia]

Originally Posted by moveteam

Desperate for news, but here is some good news for the hotel business in DK:

I know exactly how you feel.

The other day, i spoke to a guy managing a travel incoming agency. We talked about the hotel, and in his opinion the hotel has been hesitating too long, and he meant it was too late now for an extension of the hotel, and instead the hotel wanna concentrate about a renovation of the rooms.
I hope he's wrong.

[faurtown]

any news about this project ? I really hope it's goa be extended

[Hafnia]

Originally Posted by faurtown

any news about this project ? I really hope it's goa be extended

The only news, is there ain't no news.

The norwegian owners (Wenass gruppen) has used a lot of money the last years in buying up in Europe and Russia, that's maybe why they hold back the 20 mill. Euro investment for the Scandinavia Blu Radisson Hotel.
Another reason is the Copenhagener hotel market is too bad business these days, due the many new hotels in town, the missing tourists, and the low prices for a room. Obvestly the situation is changing slowly to the better now, and we have many guests coming in with huge cruise ships that spent one night here at hotels, and also many Asians tourist is passing by and spent money on luxeryeries because of the taxfree.
So all in all it gives the impression that our hotels are on their feed again, and the optimism is back. One year has gone, since the maneging director announced the extension for the hotel. So that's pretty weird that nothing has happend untill now.

[dj4life]

Hmm, it is getting weird with norwegians and tall buildings.

[moveteam]

@Hafnia I thought I had heard figures in the €60m class.. €20m for ten new floors + new cladding seems a little low?

[Hafnia]

I guess you're right Moveteam; 150 mill. dkr., is not enough. Apologize for the wrong information

I write in my first post on page 1, that the extension costs is calculated to 500 mill.dkr. So your figures make sense, especially when we know the cost for one room in general is around 1 mill. dkr. and 190 extra rooms were planned + the the whole cladding, renovation and the underground parking and buildings around the hotel.

Hopefully something will emerge in the nearest future, maybe a sale of the hotel, or some extension or renovation in some extent.
All though most of us forumers wish the enlarging to go up to the 130 meters.

[moveteam]

Originally Posted by Hafnia

I guess you're right Moveteam; 150 mill. dkr., is not enough. Apologize for the wrong information

I write in my first post on page 1, that the extension costs is calculated to 500 mill.dkr. So your figures make sense, especially when we know the cost for one room in general is around 1 mill. dkr. and 190 extra rooms were planned + the the whole cladding, renovation and the underground parking and buildings around the hotel.

Hopefully something will emerge in the nearest future, maybe a sale of the hotel, or some extension or renovation in some extent.
All though most of us forumers wish the enlarging to go up to the 130 meters.

You are probably right A renovation of some kind is inevitable sooner or later, even if that doesn't mean more floors. Would be lovely with a real tall building visible from the inner city though and more harmony between the height and width. The Radisson Plaza hotel in Oslo is heading in the other direction, sadly. But if Radisson Scandinavia still wants to attract a lot of their business customers, they need to do something with all the pretty hotels popping up around the city. Maybe it's a bad investment in the short term, but in the longer run it only makes sense.. And we want our tiny skyscraper too