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Old August 24th, 2010, 01:12 AM   #21
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Dr. Mabuse. Do you have any pre-war pics of Magdeburg. I didn't see any above. My grandmother used to visit friends there before the war as it was near her favourite city of Dresden. She was quite an international jet-setter for her time.
No, Magdeburg is hard to find. Anyway, maybe this helps you.

http://www.heimatsammlung.de/topo_un...9_unter_00.htm

http://www.zeno.org/Ansichtskarten/0...agdeburg&s=240

http://www.zeno.org/Ansichtskarten/M...Sachsen-Anhalt


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rg_um_1900.jpg

another option would http://www.bildindex.de --> Orte-->Deutschland-->M--Magedburg-->Stadt--Fotografische Ansichten
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Old August 24th, 2010, 08:15 AM   #22
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Magdeburg was nothing special. The town was completely destroyed by Tilly during the Thirty Years War, so the town center was relatively "new". Later Magdeburg was a Prussian garrison town and huge Gründerzeit quarters were built, which all looked quite rich and neat. Maybe that's why Urbanistas grandmother was impressed by the town. The people back then didn't appreciate old towns as much as we do today.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 08:40 AM   #23
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Thanks. No, she was a fan old Dresden for obvious reasons. I remember she had a suitcase which we unfortunately threw out years ago that had stamps on it from some hotel in Dresden, something typical like 'Grand Hotel' with a picture.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #24
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Magdeburg was nothing special. The town was completely destroyed by Tilly during the Thirty Years War, so the town center was relatively "new". Later Magdeburg was a Prussian garrison town and huge Gründerzeit quarters were built, which all looked quite rich and neat. Maybe that's why Urbanistas grandmother was impressed by the town. The people back then didn't appreciate old towns as much as we do today.
Yes, but other cities and smaller towns chared a similiar faith in the Thirty Years War. Magedburg is just the famoust example.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 05:55 PM   #29
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Wow!Is this an Agfacolor photo from the 1930's/40's?Where did you get it from?Do you have more of these?Thx
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Old October 29th, 2010, 09:22 PM   #30
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yeah it is.

got it from this page
http://www.planet-sindlingen.de/Fran...ombenhagel.htm

yeah, one more is on this site. acutally the first one and you see an agfacolor from a street with look to the cathedral.
(propaply the only agfacolor photos of frankfurt before the destruction)

but most color photos show the desctrution in color

i post them all of the destruction
http://www.ffmhist.de/ffm33-45/bitma...wdomplatz7.jpg

http://www.ffmhist.de/ffm33-45/bitma...ickvomdom2.jpg

http://www.ffmhist.de/ffm33-45/bitma...ickvomdom6.jpg

http://www.ffmhist.de/ffm33-45/bitma...oemerberg3.jpg

http://www.ffmhist.de/ffm33-45/bitma...ethehaus10.jpg


http://www.ffmhist.de/ffm33-45/bitma...uptwache01.jpg

And there are 2 videos in BLACK and WHITE which shows Frankfurt before the great bombing raids. German language.

Survived the war. Laid on the attic or in some archives or elsewhere. Forgotten for decades. It was only a short time ago, when they got discovered. Propaply the only videoclips of "Oldfrankfurt". Without any skyscrappers

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1176563

If you have any questions about the 3 videoclips, feel free to ask.

It is said, if you want to feel oldfrankfurt, you have to go through the small oldtown of Limburg an der Lahn to get a small view how it was a bit.

If you want to see, there are few Black and White -clips of Dresden before the war.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 10:23 PM   #31
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Colgone before the war in COLOR!

http://www.express.de/regional/koeln...6/-/index.html


Germany in early colorphotos

http://einestages.spiegel.de/externa...#featuredEntry




German Castles inside in AGFA-COLOR!


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1036169

Berlin Royal Palace



Germany at the end of the 19th century- painted photos

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...ghlight=kassel

Bremen Roland
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Old November 6th, 2010, 03:59 AM   #32
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Hope i could help you

btw. Historic Cityviews: Illustrations and Paintings http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...highlight=maps

GERMANY'S most beautiful cityscapes
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...highlight=maps
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Old November 8th, 2010, 06:20 AM   #33
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Berlin was one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Even rivaled the likes of Paris I think. Such a damn shame. Both the Communists and the Capitalists showed very little interest in preserving any of Berlin`s historic architecture. But I guess that`s the price Germany had to pay for trying to take over the world.
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Old January 19th, 2011, 07:51 PM   #34
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Berlin was one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Even rivaled the likes of Paris I think. Such a damn shame. Both the Communists and the Capitalists showed very little interest in preserving any of Berlin`s historic architecture. But I guess that`s the price Germany had to pay for trying to take over the world.
yeah, we shouldn't have declared war on both, Britain and France and all the rest... oh, wait, it was the other way around, yeah...
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Old March 5th, 2011, 12:04 PM   #35
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some god pics of hamburg today
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1332731&page=2
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Old March 7th, 2011, 01:52 AM   #36
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Quick question. How much did Communism ruin German cities? I mean in cities like Berlin, Dresden, so on. Out of buildings that survived, how much did Commies ruin?
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Old March 7th, 2011, 07:15 PM   #37
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depends on the place and the time.

- Post-War rebuilding in the east was generally on a high aesthetic level. On the other hand, cities like Dresden or Magdeburg would perhaps been rebuilt more carefully than in the east (but who knows, really?). Both East and West mostly wanted to do away with the old street layouts in destroyed areas.
- in some model towns like Bernau, Greifswald, Suhl, Gotha, Erfurt the commies later razed parts of the old town and replaced it with commieblocks. Sometimes it was only a smaller part that was destroyed, in the case of Bernau it was the entire old town that vanished.
- in most other towns they just let the houses rot due to lack of money and resources, and it wasn't until entire quarters were on the verge of collapse when they considered grand scale demolition. The fall of the wall foiled most of those plans and many old buildings could be saved since.
- Eastern towns lack the capitalist architectural sins of the 60's and 70's, like big blocky department stores in delicate areas or substandard renovations.

While the average non-destroyed East German town or village looks way better than the average preserved West German town NOW, it's hard to tell if, say, Kassel or Bremen would look better if they had been in commieland, or if cities like Dresden and Magdeburg would have fared better in the West.

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Old June 25th, 2011, 02:57 PM   #38
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Great job with this thread Dr. Mabuse!

It always is a sad sight to compare with old views, but I overcame the habit to get sad myself by looking at it. We can restore lots of the gone beauty, at least our landmarks. It takes time, but slowly and surely we're getting back to what made our cities so damn grand.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 03:00 PM   #39
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On the contrary, we're losing it. Because it weren't the buildings. It were the people. The Germans themself. And they're dying. And it comes worse: they're being replaced. Replaced by people, who not only don't care about our culture, but aim to destroy it.
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A dutch youtubeuser made a videoclip using the blackandwhite-photos in this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyw7jj0cNhA
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