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Old September 18th, 2012, 12:09 PM   #121
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Suprisingly a large aerial of Stuttgart has been removed, it seems ;(
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Old September 18th, 2012, 05:16 PM   #122
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Suprisingly a large aerial of Stuttgart has been removed, it seems ;(
yes, i wonder why they did that

i don't know if you clicked through all the pages, but there are some photos of stuttgart at 1775-1816, but like i said, Cologne, Frankfurt am Main, Mainz and Wiesbaden are complete missing.

I dont know about Tübingen and Bamberg. I have no clue why they removed some photos.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #123
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I really appreciate this thread, Dr.


Would be great to see it continues.

If I come across some spare time, I'll show comparisons from MeckPomm.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 12:39 PM   #124
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Reinoldi church Dortmund

First church called wonder of westphalia


1930

Quelle:Bildindex

Old market

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1945

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And now

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Old November 19th, 2012, 01:47 PM   #125
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Dortmund town hall
then..



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Schutzpatronin mit Hansekogge und dem alten Rathaus

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Old April 1st, 2013, 11:56 AM   #126
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Still big part of those special ww2-photos haven't been uploaded yet again.

Actually there 1962 photos of 3225 in toal are uploaed. My guess is that bildindex.de has removed about 200 to 250 photos of Kassel, Erfurt, Frankfurt am Main, Köln, Stuttgart, Wiesbaden and even Warsaw and other smal german cities.

Now 1962 photos and in the past 200 to 250 photos now missing on the website, which means that there are about 1000 photos which have never been uploaded. I dont know why, maybe becuase of bad quality or unknown location. I doubt we will ever see the 1000 photos and the missing 200 to 250 photos again. Maybe the local german authorities dont like it. maybe they wanna sell them in the future? I dont know, i have no clue. I only know it's a litte tragedy they removed the photos and i whish they would bring them back to the open public!

If you have photos of german cities feel free to post them in here
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Old April 1st, 2013, 03:42 PM   #127
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I find it very hard to figure that especially the Americans destroyed buildings and artifacts that have been around for centuries before the USA was founded. Even before the first settlers set foot on the new world.
It was a different time and there was an utter lack of concern for these buildings. However, it wasn't just Americans. The British frequently destroyed historical centers (think of Dresden), as well as the Germans (Warsaw), the Russians (Berlin), and so on.

However, there were Americans who did feel a loss when it came to these buildings. You have to remember that during WWII most Americans were European by blood and many still had strong connections to the old world(many still do).
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Old April 1st, 2013, 07:53 PM   #128
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It was a different time and there was an utter lack of concern for these buildings. However, it wasn't just Americans. The British frequently destroyed historical centers (think of Dresden), as well as the Germans (Warsaw), the Russians (Berlin), and so on.

However, there were Americans who did feel a loss when it came to these buildings. You have to remember that during WWII most Americans were European by blood and many still had strong connections to the old world(many still do).
We have to remember also that separate from the insanity of war and the sheer madness of generals and leaders directing troops and airforces to destroy, destroy, destroy, American mentality only recently became attentive to and nurturing of historic preservationism. For example, there was no war within the USA but the wrecking ball did a pretty good job of destroying much of American urban architecture during the 1860s through 1970s. Many Americans during WWII had little concern about buildings being lost in Europe simply due to the 'tear down and rebuilt' attitude most embraced.
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Old April 1st, 2013, 08:10 PM   #129
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I find it very hard to figure that especially the Americans destroyed buildings and artifacts that have been around for centuries before the USA was founded. Even before the first settlers set foot on the new world.
Yes - Americans are profoundly evil.
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Old April 1st, 2013, 10:51 PM   #130
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We have to remember also that separate from the insanity of war and the sheer madness of generals and leaders directing troops and airforces to destroy, destroy, destroy, American mentality only recently became attentive to and nurturing of historic preservationism. For example, there was no war within the USA but the wrecking ball did a pretty good job of destroying much of American urban architecture during the 1860s through 1970s. Many Americans during WWII had little concern about buildings being lost in Europe simply due to the 'tear down and rebuilt' attitude most embraced.
But this was not uniquely American. The British, Russians, Germans, French, etc did a great deal of damage to the historical cities of Europe. This was not a uniquely American attitude. Much of the destruction of Europe was due to other Europeans, not their cousins across the pond (though we didn't exactly leave it untouched either).

A lot of the post-war destruction of American architecture wasn't because of an innately American trait, but one that was plaguing most of Western civilization at the time.Those who had power over architecture and development wanted to destroy the remnants of our past and replace it with their vision.
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 04:24 AM   #131
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A lot of the post-war destruction of American architecture wasn't because of an innately American trait, but one that was plaguing most of Western civilization at the time.Those who had power over architecture and development wanted to destroy the remnants of our past and replace it with their vision.
Agree in part, yes. However, who allowed the architects to make the decisions and control of beauty past and present? The population at large because they, generally, cared more for new and shiny and bigger and brighter. Much like the political scene. We're all good at throwing out the baby with the bath water.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 12:17 AM   #133
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A lot of the post-war destruction of American architecture wasn't because of an innately American trait, but one that was plaguing most of Western civilization at the time.Those who had power over architecture and development wanted to destroy the remnants of our past and replace it with their vision.
That's unfortunately true. Several surviving buildings were demolished in the postwar period due to the predominant modernist conceptions of town planning and architecture.
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Interesting thread -- any information about finding more images to compare those German cities that were targeted in WW2 before and after bombing? It seems like so many have been carefully reconstructed, but some, like Chemnitz, were rebuilt in an "anti-urban" form. I can find images of Chemnitz before the war but the city was so utterly transformed in the post-war years, it's nearly impossible to identify the locations of the images.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 04:09 AM   #135
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Does anyone have a list of German cities (post-WW2 boundaries; >25,000) that were NOT bombed? I (think) I read that Regensburg was not bombed.

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Old November 17th, 2014, 06:04 PM   #136
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Luneburg, Schwerin, Zittau, Gorlitz, Gottingen, Oldenburg are small cities that I have visited that seems untouched - but correct me if Im wrong.
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Does anyone have a list of German cities (post-WW2 boundaries; >25,000) that were NOT bombed? I (think) I read that Regensburg was not bombed.
Regensburg was bombed, although the city centre did not sustain much damage. There was an aircraft plant as well as an oil refinery that were destroyed.

The Obermünster church was destroyed in 1945 in a bombing raid and never rebuilt.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 01:42 AM   #138
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It's probably a good thing -- but I can't find any images online of the Obermuenster Abbey -- seeing what was lost can be heartbreaking.
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Old November 18th, 2014, 05:25 PM   #139
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https://www.google.no/search?q=Oberm...ed=0CAcQ_AUoAg

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https://www.google.no/search?q=Oberm...che+regensburg
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So horrible I wish all the german cities made a 200 meters multiply 200 meters altstadt without a single modern building and with a piazza in the middle.
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