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Old September 6th, 2013, 05:30 AM   #141
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Old September 6th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #142
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I was recently in Minneapolis and rode the Blue line.
Two things made me surprised:

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1. I didnt know the downtown part would be THAT slow! I bet a runnig person can easily overpass the train there. The same for the few stations around Mall of America. Bendy and very slow section. Seems like an old tram. It takes ages to pass just 2 or 3 stations.

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2. I didnt know the underground part and some of the middle sections would be THAT fast. Seems like a real metro line. I liked that part very much. It takes you so quick to the downtown.

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So im wondering if the new green line to St. Paul would be more like metro or (please dont!) like a slow tram.
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Old September 24th, 2013, 05:45 AM   #143
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So im wondering if the new green line to St. Paul would be more like metro or (please dont!) like a slow tram.

I bet trains will roll really slow around downtown Mpls UofM and downtown SP areas. Besides those areas I heard that the trains will run somewhere between
35mph to 45mph nowhere close to Hiawatha blue line which can go up to 55mph at some segments.

Well any some update of TC transit projects by MSPdude on Flickr

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Old September 24th, 2013, 09:28 AM   #144
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The speed in downtown Mpls really sucks. And on the green line it looks like there wont be many of 'faster segments'. Even University ave has at least 10 000 crossings.
Do you know what will be the travel time from Mpls to St. Paul?
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Old September 25th, 2013, 03:45 AM   #145
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Do you know what will be the travel time from Mpls to St. Paul?
40 mins. If you wanted to go faster, you would take the 94 express bus.

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Old September 25th, 2013, 04:20 AM   #146
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Is the stadium station below ground?
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Old September 25th, 2013, 08:45 AM   #147
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Is the stadium station below ground?
Which one? There are four stadiums (Target Field, Metrodome, TCF Bank Stadium, and the future Saints Ballpark) on the Green Line...

But, no. None underground.
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Old October 21st, 2013, 09:11 PM   #148
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A single car Bombardier LRV sits at Terminal 2 Station, running the free overnight shuttle that links the two terminals at MSP Airport. The shuttle starts a few hours before Blue Line service ends for the night, to provide more frequent service between the terminals. This LRV has new destination sign that can display colors, although it is not used here.
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Old October 24th, 2013, 02:04 AM   #149
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Saint Paul Union Depot

The Amtrak station at Union Depot in downtown St Paul is expected to open some time after Thanksgiving this year. The current Amtrak station is in the St Paul industrial district (Midway station).

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis...ak-union-depot
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Old October 24th, 2013, 05:30 PM   #150
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1. Great that they're moving the station to the old down-town station which'll connect to the Green line LRT.
2. There just one train per day to Chicago? I knew inter-ctiy rail was a joke in much of the US, but srsly? 1?
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That's common unfortunately outside of Northeast Corridor. You probably know this, but unlike other most industrialized countries freight rail companies own most of the rail lines in the US. Amtrak has to seek permission to run their trains on private freight lines as far as I know. With a combination of a shitty and slow rail line thanks to decades of underinvestment, slow freight trains that has higher priority, delays, zero electrification, and long distances from Twin Cities, it's not surprising they run a train once a day to Chicago.

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I know, I know

Also, that one train takes 9 hours. ffs! It's that issue with the freight companies owning the rails and setting the rules & speeds on 'em - again. Copenhagen-Stockholm is a slightly shorter trip (6h11m by car vs 6h21m by car according to Google Maps), but the slow over-night trains take only 8h45m with the express trains taking 5h04m.

The way local transit is being built in US cities will increase the demand for inter-city rail tho. Which in turn will mean more funding for it.
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The St Paul-Chicago train has little in common with the Copenhagen-Stockholm train except that both travel through areas populated by Viking settlers.
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Also, that one train takes 9 hours. ffs! It's that issue with the freight companies owning the rails and setting the rules & speeds on 'em - again. Copenhagen-Stockholm is a slightly shorter trip (6h11m vs 6h21m according to Google Maps), but the slow over-night trains take only 8h45m with the express trains taking 5h04m.

The way local transit is being built in US cities will increase the demand for inter-city rail tho. Which in turn will mean more funding for it.
That assumes if there is a huge shift in opinions on mass transit in this country. Many politicians(mostly on the right) and their voter base plus conservative libertarian groups like CATO strongly oppose more investment in transit and trains.
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There's plans to run commuter rail out of that station

Also proposals to run trains to Duluth and Rochester, MN.

Personally I think there should be an extended Hiawatha that goes MSP-Madison-Milwaukee-Chicago.
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So, it's been several months... is ridership on the Red Line meeting expectations?
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After the first two months of service, daily ridership is at 835 each weekday, which is 86 percent of the line’s goal by the end of the first full year of service (975) and halfway toward its 2017 goal (1,600).

The service averages 480 riders on weekend days after the first two months.

Both of these averages have risen as of July 19 when daily weekday ridership was 798 and weekend day ridership was 450.
This was in August, but I imagine the numbers stayed pretty solid.

http://sunthisweek.com/2013/08/22/ri...s-on-red-line/

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835 per day? I was at first very, very surprised that was neough for anyone to call it "solid". So I looked back in the thread and realised the line has just 5 stops and runs from the end of the LRT outwards. 835 isn't bad given that.
Bit of a weird starting stretch for BRT in a region, but I guess it must have been way easier to get done than something more central/longer.
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St. Paul Union Depot

Unfortunately Amtrak service to St Paul Union Depot downtown (and discontinuation of service to Midway station in the middle of an industrial estate) has been delayed to around mid-February.

http://www.twincities.com/stpaul/ci_...s-arrive-early
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