SAN JOSE - Cisco Field / Oakland Athletics Ballpark (32,000)

[Bigmac1212]

It's an interesting design. The seating arraningment kinda reminds me of Pittsburgh's PNC Park.

What is the outfield dimensions?

[Darloeye]

Sorry what is the differnt between san jose and santa clara. Cos I have been looking at google maps and bing maps and it just look like one big city. Is it two towns that grow to be next too each other but never changed into one big city with just one name? Sorry to ask just well iam british.

[Archbishop]

Originally Posted by Darloeye

Sorry what is the differnt between san jose and santa clara. Cos I have been looking at google maps and bing maps and it just look like one big city. Is it two towns that grow to be next too each other but never changed into one big city with just one name? Sorry to ask just well iam british.

I'm not from California and I've sadly never been, but I'm pretty sure Santa Clara is just a neighboring city like Minneapolis and St. Paul but on a smaller scale. Santa Clara has a lot of the headquarters for the big technological businesses in Silicon Valley and the San Jose Earthquakes currently play in Santa Clara. It's the same metro area I believe.

[slipperydog]

Originally Posted by Darloeye

Sorry what is the differnt between san jose and santa clara. Cos I have been looking at google maps and bing maps and it just look like one big city. Is it two towns that grow to be next too each other but never changed into one big city with just one name? Sorry to ask just well iam british.

In big metropolitan areas in America, cities border each other all the time. Actual cities can be separated by things like a residential street. One side of the street is one city, and when you kick your soccer ball across the street you're in another. It's not like in England where you leave town, drive 5 miles through the countryside, get to another town, drive 5 more miles through farmland and get to another town. Look at a map of greater Los Angeles. There are probably at least 85/90 separate cities in the LA metro area, but when you look at a map, it looks like it all runs together.

[mrakbaseball]

from http://ballparksofbaseball.com/future/CiscoField.htm

Fremont, California's proposed Cisco Field











has a slightly larger capacity than its San Jose namesake.

[Darloeye]

Originally Posted by slipperydog

In big metropolitan areas in America, cities border each other all the time. Actual cities can be separated by things like a residential street. One side of the street is one city, and when you kick your soccer ball across the street you're in another. It's not like in England where you leave town, drive 5 miles through the countryside, get to another town, drive 5 more miles through farmland and get to another town. Look at a map of greater Los Angeles. There are probably at least 85/90 separate cities in the LA metro area, but when you look at a map, it looks like it all runs together.

Oh ok thanks. Bit like london boroughs then. Sure some towns folk have to drive miles to the next town. Yeah have seen the LA metro area on google maps

[krudmonk]

That Fremont design looks better, but it's a shame there's not enough space for it.

Originally Posted by Darloeye

Oh ok thanks. Bit like london boroughs then. Sure some towns folk have to drive miles to the next town. Yeah have seen the LA metro area on google maps

It happens elsewhere: Newcastle/Gateshead, Manchester/Salford, Birmingham/West Bromwich, etc.

[Darloeye]

Originally Posted by krudmonk

That Fremont design looks better, but it's a shame there's not enough space for it.

It happens elsewhere: Newcastle/Gateshead, Manchester/Salford, Birmingham/West Bromwich, etc.

Well newcastlegateshead has the river tyne to break it up. Must people think salford is apart of manchester. birmingham is a dump lol.

[Luke80]

Really like that design - feels nice and enclosed.

[pesto]

A few comments, mostly for non-locals:

Only 12 of 32 MLB teams are averaging over 32k this year, so 32k is not nonsensical. However, it will make it the smallest in MLB and, more importantly psychologically, it also makes it smaller than the SF Giant’s stadium.

There will be a disproportionately large number of boxes since the Silicon Valley tech companies are expected to be big purchasers so revenues should be adequate. The South Bay is a growing, booming area, with loads of disposable income and there will be very extensive train and streetcar transit to the door so there is little reason for them not to sell out regularly. If room permitted, I would like to see larger, though not of NY or LA size.

btw, in Oakland the A’s are drawing in the teens this year and last. But a stadium in SJ would probably attract both SJ and East Bay A’s fans.

Santa Clara (where the SF 49ers are likely to move) is a suburb of SJ. Their new stadium will be about ¼ mile outside the SJ city limits in the north end of Santa Clara). For the time being they will not change their names but as noted above, the A’s certainly will.

[eMKay]

Originally Posted by krudmonk

The bay does not separate one from the other.
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Yeah, it does.

[eMKay]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

from http://ballparksofbaseball.com/future/CiscoField.htm

Fremont, California's proposed Cisco Field











has a slightly larger capacity than its San Jose namesake.

Meh. Like the other proposal better.

[krudmonk]

Originally Posted by eMKay

Yeah, it does.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=san%20...N&hl=en&tab=wl

[mrakbaseball]

Originally Posted by eMKay

Meh. Like the other proposal better.

Fremont Cisco>San Jose Cisco.
The Fremont version is the one that got everyone excited that there was indeed a possibility that the A's could exist and flourish away from Mt. Davis.

[rantanamo]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

Fremont Cisco>San Jose Cisco.
The Fremont version is the one that got everyone excited that there was indeed a possibility that the A's could exist and flourish away from Mt. Davis.

Bricks...........wow. Are bricks the dominant architecture in that area?

[pesto]

Not too many bricks; this is earthquake country. Facing bricks maybe but few real ones.

In any event, the A's are fully committed to SJ at this point which makes sense both from the point of view of transit access, DT presence (food, bars, hotels within blocks) and density of population. Fremont gets some mention mostly because it's not in Giant's "territory" (that it, it is in Alameda County, although closer to SJ than Oakland). But it sounded like another "ballpark with retail and offices" in the burbs.

I drive the Oakland-SJ route regularly. Never noticed a bay there.

[SergioD]

wonder what right-handed hitters will think of the odd configuration in left-field. I guess it's designed to give some crazy hops off the wall...certainly is a LOT more friendly and inviting than the Oakland Colosseum but it doesn't seem to have the intimacy of AT&T park

[mrakbaseball]

The ballpark is designed by ThreeSixty Architecture, at least it's not by the firm formerly known as HOK.
It's weird that while the ballpark will only have a capacity of 32,000 it unfortunately has 2 decks in left field. You would think with a capacity that small, the majority of seats would be located in foul territory. Oh well, at least it's not the Mausoleum.

[KingmanIII]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

The ballpark is designed by ThreeSixty Architecture, at least it's not by the firm formerly known as HOK.

360 was formed by the merger of CDFM2 and Heinlein-Schrock-Stearns, the latter of which was started by former HOK people in 1998 (they designed Safeco, Nationwide Arena, American Airlines Arena, etc.).

[sbutlik]

http://www.stadiumpage.com/stpages/sja.html