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Old June 2nd, 2011, 07:14 AM   #81
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May lula supports corinthians YEAH HE DOES.....Morumbi stadium is nearer the downtown and the touristic points of São Paulo....anyway what i mean is Morumbi stadium would be a better choice and c'mmon São Paulo team has more money than Corinthians team.....so what I'd like to say it would be better in Morumbi staidum and it was a lula idea for his team stidum has the cup oppening in it.....now the team of corinthians is doing a stupid stuff of republic of corinthians where you can buy passport and born document(i don't know how to say that in english),of course it is to earn money for the staidum cuz they don't have and my mind is if são paulo team didn't too it could do the same thing and build the cup stadium in the city South zone where are the best hotels,malls,touristic sites and services.....
Who say to you that Sao Paulo FC is richest than Corinthians? Just in your dreams!
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 02:45 AM   #82
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Never, I think it's a great design.
well, some people say it looks like an old Epson printer

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Old June 3rd, 2011, 02:47 PM   #83
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Nice stadium!!! i like it.... something different in all this new stadiums projects and using the rectangular shape as the English style stadiums. i really like it.
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Old June 3rd, 2011, 04:49 PM   #84
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i like it very much. its unusual shape breaks some boring designs that are so common lately. so bring it on
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Old June 4th, 2011, 08:46 PM   #85
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Agreed! However is rather small for the WC and a city that large.
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Old June 4th, 2011, 08:53 PM   #86
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Agreed! However is rather small for the WC and a city that large.
well, its small for a city that large, as a World Cup stadium. But São Paulo has several other stadiums already.
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Old June 4th, 2011, 09:17 PM   #87
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well, its small for a city that large, as a World Cup stadium. But São Paulo has several other stadiums already.
Maybe so, but; are they going to use them during the WC?
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Old June 5th, 2011, 12:47 AM   #88
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Maybe so, but; are they going to use them during the WC?
no, and thats exatly why so many people bash building a new stadium for Corinthians, with government money help, when there is already a public stadium (Pacaembu), already a new stadium being renovated for 45 thousand people (Parque Antartica, from Palmeiras) and already a stadium for over 65 thousand people, also under renovation (Morumbi). And none of those will be used in the World Cup.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 09:34 AM   #89
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So plans have shifted back to the Morumbi now? I thought the Corinthians stadium was sposed to be hosting matches with some temp seats.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 06:06 PM   #90
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nobody said plans have changed back to Morumbi...
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Old June 5th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #91
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Excellent design, unlike the boring classic round design of the Brazilian stage, the audience will be closer to the action than any other stadium in Brazil. Congratulation.
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Old June 5th, 2011, 08:04 PM   #92
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Old June 6th, 2011, 03:14 AM   #93
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no, and thats exatly why so many people bash building a new stadium for Corinthians, with government money help, when there is already a public stadium (Pacaembu), already a new stadium being renovated for 45 thousand people (Parque Antartica, from Palmeiras) and already a stadium for over 65 thousand people, also under renovation (Morumbi). And none of those will be used in the World Cup.
Not judging how useful it will be for the city (still, isn't Itaquera financed privately, with only the temporary stands paid for from public money?), but this stadium will be good for the World Cup. Since the tournament is hosted by Brazil, since there will already be a few huge round stadiums, this one will be very characterictic and having it done in the football-specific way is quite some quality compared to several stadiums that are only 'close-to-football-specific' - like the Beira Rio, Maracana, Mineirao and Castelao.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 03:42 AM   #94
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Not judging how useful it will be for the city (still, isn't Itaquera financed privately, with only the temporary stands paid for from public money?), but this stadium will be good for the World Cup. Since the tournament is hosted by Brazil, since there will already be a few huge round stadiums, this one will be very characterictic and having it done in the football-specific way is quite some quality compared to several stadiums that are only 'close-to-football-specific' - like the Beira Rio, Maracana, Mineirao and Castelao.

there are no such thing as "close to football specific". Beira Rio is a football specific stadium. Being slighly oval or not is not being "football specific".

its a simple fact that all the largest stadiums in Brazil were oval. There are hundreds of square "english like" football stadiums in Brazil, where the crowd is very near the pitch. All of them are small stadiums from small clubs.

besides, if you want a private stadium for 60 thousand people, square shaped, look no further than Grêmio Arena, which is being built in this exact moment and wont even be used in the World Cup.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 02:36 PM   #95
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there are no such thing as "close to football specific". Beira Rio is a football specific stadium. Being slighly oval or not is not being "football specific".
Actually - there is Because they're neither football-specific in the regular meaning of that phrase, nor multifunctional in terms of hosting athletics. We both know I'm not using professional names here, but I don't think I have to explain what I mean as it's pretty clear that oval stadiums like Beira Rio or Maracana offer compromised sightlines for spectators, compared to the likes of Gremio Arena.

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its a simple fact that all the largest stadiums in Brazil were oval. There are hundreds of square "english like" football stadiums in Brazil, where the crowd is very near the pitch. All of them are small stadiums from small clubs.

besides, if you want a private stadium for 60 thousand people, square shaped, look no further than Grêmio Arena, which is being built in this exact moment and wont even be used in the World Cup.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=448668
I never meant to question that, really.
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Old June 8th, 2011, 07:18 PM   #96
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no, and thats exatly why so many people bash building a new stadium for Corinthians, with government money help, when there is already a public stadium (Pacaembu), already a new stadium being renovated for 45 thousand people (Parque Antartica, from Palmeiras) and already a stadium for over 65 thousand people, also under renovation (Morumbi). And none of those will be used in the World Cup.
None of those stadiums are good for the Opening match of the WC. And there will be no public money in this stadium, what exists is an incentive and tax free for investment in the region. Much better than the other projects from other cities that are using public money like Brasilia, Rio and Salvador.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 11:47 AM   #97
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None of those stadiums are good for the Opening match of the WC. And there will be no public money in this stadium, what exists is an incentive and tax free for investment in the region. Much better than the other projects from other cities that are using public money like Brasilia, Rio and Salvador.
If they are no good to host the opening match, why don't open it elsewhere?
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Old June 10th, 2011, 05:19 PM   #98
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Actually - there is Because they're neither football-specific in the regular meaning of that phrase, nor multifunctional in terms of hosting athletics.
wrong. They ARE football specific, even if they are oval.


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We both know I'm not using professional names here, but I don't think I have to explain what I mean as it's pretty clear that oval stadiums like Beira Rio or Maracana offer compromised sightlines for spectators, compared to the likes of Gremio Arena.
the compromised sightlines mean just that, not that they arent football specific.

the oval shape is the best shape to put more people in the stadium without adding too much height.

to have a stadium for 80 thousand, either you make it very tall, or you make it not so tall but oval.
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