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Old September 21st, 2010, 06:15 AM   #381
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Tbite,

You a supporter of Sprawl?

I want to to live in LA , Houston. then let me know how you like it.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:37 AM   #382
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I didnt say I supported Urban sprawl per say, but when you have properly developed cities with satellite cities (greenfield cities) etc encompassing larger nodes. Each with sufficient transport, walkable, each with ample vegetation and sustainability then what is wrong with that?

High Density is not a solution for population growth or transport woes.

High density developments have their own problems, social, economic and environmental.

If there is not enough land, then curb your population. Places like Tokyo and Hong Kong (They are even planning to build underground now ) are not good cities.

The world is not made to support an infinite amount of people. Only morons think they can build Dubai Supertalls as a solution for population growth.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 02:59 AM   #383
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I absolutely agree with Tbite for once. The rate at which Tokyo is growing spells doom for the nation in the future if there is no alternative solution.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 03:04 AM   #384
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Have you ever been to TOkyo ??? The living cost there is sOoo high and Expensive, and Purchasing power is so unrealistic ( you wont believe the amount of money the average Japanese will spend on secondary stuff ) it will be just irrelevant to compare Tokyo to any other city in the World !!!
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 03:40 AM   #385
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We are actually talking about the environment impact due to the expanding city not the living standard of the people. The idea is based on the consequential effect of the whole land being used in the future for constructions.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 03:51 AM   #386
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I didnt say I supported Urban sprawl per say, but when you have properly developed cities with satellite cities (greenfield cities) etc encompassing larger nodes. Each with sufficient transport, walkable, each with ample vegetation and sustainability then what is wrong with that?

High Density is not a solution for population growth or transport woes.

High density developments have their own problems, social, economic and environmental.

If there is not enough land, then curb your population. Places like Tokyo and Hong Kong (They are even planning to build underground now ) are not good cities.

The world is not made to support an infinite amount of people. Only morons think they can build Dubai Supertalls as a solution for population growth.
Curving the population is a lot more difficult than it may appear. But I agree w/ limited space there shouldn't be a huge population (if it cannot be environmentally supported). Earth could hold more people, but only if we adapted more eco-friendly ways of living and stopped expanding into untouched land to build even more suburbs.
There is always the ocean that could house life, and over 70% of Earth is water, so plenty of space there. I'm sure as tech develops we'll figure out how to make this possible.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 04:36 AM   #387
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Curving the population is a lot more difficult than it may appear. But I agree w/ limited space there shouldn't be a huge population (if it cannot be environmentally supported). Earth could hold more people, but only if we adapted more eco-friendly ways of living and stopped expanding into untouched land to build even more suburbs.
There is always the ocean that could house life, and over 70% of Earth is water, so plenty of space there. I'm sure as tech develops we'll figure out how to make this possible.
U mean like Eko atlantic? :haha:
But seriously now, u don't need that much of high tech to expand and live on the sea!!!
Just go to the Nigerian coastal community, and u will see what I mean
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 09:37 AM   #388
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Curving the population is a lot more difficult than it may appear. But I agree w/ limited space there shouldn't be a huge population (if it cannot be environmentally supported). Earth could hold more people, but only if we adapted more eco-friendly ways of living and stopped expanding into untouched land to build even more suburbs.
There is always the ocean that could house life, and over 70% of Earth is water, so plenty of space there. I'm sure as tech develops we'll figure out how to make this possible.
I thought the same thing too initially.

But there are elements we obtain from the earth that are being consumed at a faster rate than they can be replenished. It would be centuries before we could ever adopt enough methods to sustain this.

There is something called earth overshoot day. According to this, we have already passed the optimal level this year.

No matter which way you try to look at it, we have to curb our population rather than simply building underground or higher.

And from a social point of view, I will always prefer to live in a spacious house than a cramped unit in Tokyo or New York.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 04:44 AM   #389
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One of Africa's most intriguing projects which nobody seems to have mentioned, is the Alexandria Underwater Museum - Will be The World's first Underwater museum:


























More info here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1018981
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 04:48 AM   #390
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Wow, that museum is really something. I'm assuming it's about marine life right?


Okay, just watched the video and from that, I see that it's an archeological museum. Is it a good idea to leave all those treasures unprotected (from art thieves and from decay) underwater?

Other than that, it's going to be spectacular.

I thought it was funny that the film was dedicated to Hosni Mubarak for his awesome leadership

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Old September 23rd, 2010, 04:52 AM   #391
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is the museum actually gonna be built? because then I'm not gonna wait until I'm in my 30's to go to egypt
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 03:21 PM   #392
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Yup, Just two days ago Alexandria's Minister just confirmed that it going to be completed before the Mediterranean Games 2017.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 06:54 PM   #393
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Suez Canal Bridge













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Old September 24th, 2010, 09:31 PM   #394
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Old September 24th, 2010, 09:39 PM   #395
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Amazing projects in Egypt, specially that under-water museum. For having a government y'all so heavily criticize, they must be doing some thing's right.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 09:41 PM   #396
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Is that a render or a real bridge??? I feel so dumb for asking but the pics have me confused.
Either way, gorgeous!
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Old September 24th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #397
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Amazing projects in Egypt, specially that under-water museum. For having a government y'all so heavily criticize, they must be doing some thing's right.
PLEASE do not have that impression!

Do you see all these projects? Those are less than 2% of Egypt's potential. There is SO SO SO much more we could do, and we could've gone SO MUCH further if we weren't stuck this leadership curse of 30 years.

In the 60s, we were exactly the same as South Korea at the time, look at where they are now , and look at where we are.

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Is that a render or a real bridge??? I feel so dumb for asking but the pics have me confused.
Either way, gorgeous!
Real, completed bridge.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #398
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Is it just me, or was every African nation "like South Korea" at some point in the past?
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Old September 24th, 2010, 11:26 PM   #399
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Is it just me, or was every African nation "like South Korea" at some point in the past?
No, we literally had very identical stats:

From the Economist:

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FIFTY years ago Egypt looked oddly similar to another country. It had nearly the same population which was growing similarly fast, the same low income per person, the same proportion of relatively few city dwellers to lots of peasants working tiny plots, and similar life expectancy. With dangerous enemies on their borders, both countries were weighed down by heavy military spending. Both were run by quasi-dictators, complete with strict censorship and a pervasive secret police.

Egypt has made a lot of progress since then, particularly in recent years. But the other country, South Korea, has developed far faster. It has become a leading industrial power, a technological innovator and a vibrant democracy. Its people are now five times richer than Egypt’s (at purchasing-power parity against the dollar; at prevailing exchange rates the gap is far bigger), and on average live nearly ten years longer. The only measure on which South Korea lags behind is population growth. Whereas it had around 25m people in 1960 and now has double that number, Egypt’s population has nearly tripled.
More comparison int he full article: http://www.economist.com/node/16564142
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Old September 25th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #400
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Alright, if you put it that way, it kinda sucks. That's unfortunately a curse spread all over Africa.
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