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Would I be right in thinking this is on the junction of Lightbowne Road and Moston Lane, looks plenty of space there.
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http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...dium-in-moston
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No, its the opposite side of Lightbowne Rd, bordered by Nuthurst Rd and St Marys Road, near to the bowling green and the children's nursery
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I think....I THINK this is the area
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Am I the only one underwhelmed by this location? Not aware of any direct public transport to this location and if there is its a "round the estates " bus. Not great for 2000 crowds one thinks.
Confused that £600k is turned down for Newton Heath, but £750k appears for Moston? Or is it really £200k. I presume Ronnie Johnsen fields was already going to happen? I dont get this one? http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_downl
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Well the club did say the new site would be larger than Ten Acres and would offer more possibilities for the club in the future, there is not many sites around Manchester that can offer that scope and still keep costs down.
According to Google its a 15 minute walk from Newton Heath tram stop, so transport is a tick, there is also the Victoria - Rochdale train line just over the way so perhaps a future station is not out of the question, Ive not checked buses though. And its in North Manchester, so we can really bed ourselves in and make a difference with the various communities of Moston, Newton Heath, Crumpsall, Cheetham Hill, Harpurhey, Broughton etc, just giving us enough space from our more esteemed neighbours. Last edited by TheGrand; April 5th, 2011 at 10:02 PM. |
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Well I suppose beggars can't be choosers in a recession.
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I was confused about the funding too, were MCC putting up £1.2m originally and reduced it to £750k or were the funding issues not really on MCC side but the clubs side? Also worth noting MCC is continuing to invest in the facilities at the original site.
Newton Heath Metrolink stops not really great for large crowds either being one platform and having a huge access ramp to get to the platform from street level, but then a 6k capacity ground isnt going to attract huge numbers of Metrolink users. |
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Nope neither The council were putting in 650k for Ten Acres, this from memory was the value of the subsidy the council put into the sports hall plus cost for renovation. The sports hall I think is actually run by an external company (someone like Serco or Sodexo or of that ilk) but was still subsidised and it was up for tender at some point (or closed), something like that anyway, so with FC running the hall, the council no longer had to fund it plus it was getting a complete overhaul The 750k mentioned here looks like a similar trade off between council and club, it does mention in the doc that the fields need renovation at a cost of 750k, which has already been approved, so there's your MCC money |
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So your saying they cancelled a £600k project on cost grounds only to approve a less ambitious £750k project? Doesnt make sense.
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No Im saying the money which was approved to be spent back in July 2009 on improvements to these fields is now being revised and tailored to fit in with a much larger scheme on the same site.
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Was actually £1m approved in 2009 along with a £500k football foundation grant for the construction of changing facilities and the construction of a full size artifical turf playing field with floodlights to be used for neighbouring schools.
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I've seen much larger stadiums with poorer transport links. When I went to St Andrews in Birmingham, it seemed easier to walk from the city centre for 20 minutes, than bother messing with the trains. No trams planned near their stadium. The best thing I can compare it to, would be like walking from Putney Bridge Tube Station to Craven Cottage, that's about mile away or walking from Ashburys to Coms. The Metrolink station will likely be either a 6 minute to 12 minute service during operating hours, so if the stadium is a 15 minute walk from both stations, the tram stop seems like the easiest option. Clearly this isn't anywhere near as close as Ten Arces to its new tram stop but its workable. |
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http://www.manchester.gov.uk/egov_do..._FC_United.pdf Point being anyway, it kind of explains why 650k was cancelled for one site and why 750k is now on the table for another, but who knows. |
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Aside from location, this is still a good move. Investment in north Manchester.
I guess it would be about 20 minutes to the ground from the nearest tram station if St Marys Rd was opened up. By the way who is was Ronald Johnson ?
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it's not Ronny Johnsen the norweigan centre back at the nou camp in 96'
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Ground - update 6th April
The Executive Committee of the Council has today passed our application, subject to conditions and a planning application. We also need to consult with local residents and local community groups. Further details will be given at tomorrow evening’s General Meeting of club members which takes place at the Central Methodist Hall, Oldham street, Manchester with a start time of 7pm. |
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It's a good spot, better in my opinion to Ten Acres with a large residential community close by.
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The site is less than a mile from the new Newton Heath & Moston Tram Stop, roughly same distance as Gigg Lane from Bury Tram Stop, it'll offer services to Oldham/Rochdale, City Centre and South Manchester (Didsbury & Chorlton), this new stop should be open for season 2012/13, 15 minute walk. But there is also the Victoria Rochdale train line near by too (marked with the red square), so perhaps long term the area could have its own train station too.
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It's also within walking distance for a large residential population in the area. A lot of new houses seem to be going up as well.
We're getting too concerned with distances from train stations, there are loads of bus services from all over North Manchester running through the area. FC may have fallen on their feet here. |
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