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Old September 16th, 2015, 12:15 AM   #341
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72km/h is very slow , hopefully they'll increase that to 160km/h...
72 km/h is the testing speed. Operating speed will probably be closer to 90-100 km/h
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Old September 16th, 2015, 12:07 PM   #342
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Impressive transit expansion for a US city. Are there any other cities in the USA with as comprehensive and extensive transit expansion plans as Denver?
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Old September 16th, 2015, 01:00 PM   #343
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Impressive transit expansion for a US city. Are there any other cities in the USA with as comprehensive and extensive transit expansion plans as Denver?
LA , San Fransisco , Seattle , Dallas-Fort Worth (Northern Texas) and DC region to a lesser extent all have extensive plans in the works or under construction.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 04:57 PM   #344
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That goes to show you what cities really want to make a difference in traffic, air quality, and economic growth. I'm proud of these cities that making a difference.
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Old October 11th, 2015, 01:18 PM   #345
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Stockpile of concrete ties for construction of RTD's Gold Line (Commuter Rail) from Denver to Wheat Ridge, Colorado, April 25, 2014.
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Old October 12th, 2015, 08:01 PM   #346
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USA: Denver Regional Transportation District has awarded Siemens a $110m contract to supply 29 SD 160 light rail vehicles.

The LRVs are to be built at Siemens’ factory in Sacramento and are due to be delivered in early 2018. The latest order would bring RTD’s fleet of LRVs to 201, all of which have been supplied by Siemens
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Old October 12th, 2015, 10:10 PM   #347
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Hmm I suppose the new trains will be basically the same, which is good for costs and operations. I wonder if they will have an updated look?
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Old October 14th, 2015, 10:12 PM   #348
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Vehicles of that design aren't even produced in Europe anymore I think. It surprises me always again how oldtimer like new vehicles look like in the US. There are exceptions to that of course, but even those look like some very conservative designs in Europe, 10 years ago.

Why is that so? Excessive regulations? Different tastes? Absolutely zero money for design?
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Old October 15th, 2015, 12:18 AM   #349
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A recent change by the Federal Railroad Administration requires the use of bigger, stronger light rail cars on lines that move along freight corridors.
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Old October 15th, 2015, 02:41 PM   #350
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A couple of other North American light rail systems do use the same vehicle. San Diego, Salt Lake City, Edmonton, and Calgary. 3 of these 4 are medium sized networks with multiple lines and with a decent sized fleet.

I suspect Siemens could make cosmetic changes to the external body work of the car if it was desired that they look more modern. I think the newest version of this model in Edmonton looks a bit different with a rounded front end. What wouldn't change would be all the parts inside the train and the people who are trained to fix them and the tools inside the depots. I think there is room for significant cost savings and efficiency from that which you would not get if they bought new vehicles.

Besides, urban trains last an extremely long time compared to your personal car or even a city bus or fire truck. San Diego just let go of its original trains it bought in 1980 and they were sold to a transit agency in Argentina where they'll probably get even more use.
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A couple of other North American light rail systems do use the same vehicle. San Diego, Salt Lake City, Edmonton, and Calgary. 3 of these 4 are medium sized networks with multiple lines and with a decent sized fleet. I suspect Siemens could make cosmetic changes to the external body work of the car if it was desired that they look more modern. I think the newest version of this model in Edmonton looks a bit different with a rounded front end. What wouldn't change would be all the parts inside the train and the people who are trained to fix them and the tools inside the depots. I think there is room for significant cost savings and efficiency from that which you would not get if they bought new vehicles. Besides, urban trains last an extremely long time compared to your personal car or even a city bus or fire truck. San Diego just let go of its original trains it bought in 1980 and they were sold to a transit agency in Argentina where they'll probably get even more use.
And a lot of cities have used, or are looking at doing so, the S70 trains.

I know Philly is currently interested in pursuing this model. I think Phoenix and Atlanta (along with Houston and others) are some cities that have recently used this train.

I suspect in Denver's case, they may have be extending a preexisting order? There are all kinds of reason why they would be buying more 160s rather than 70s
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S70s would never work on the Philly system due to its heritage.
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A recent change by the Federal Railroad Administration requires the use of bigger, stronger light rail cars on lines that move along freight corridors.
Come on, seriously? I thought they were pushing back these pointless tank regulations. And now you are telling me they are doing the opposite, expanding its application.

You safe lives by having a proper and solid track control system, not by putting tanks on rail. The whole developed world is doing it like this (and possibly even large parts of the emerging countries and possibly even various developing countries), all but one major exception apparently.
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I know SEPTA has been looking into purchasing longer streetcars. Something like what Toronto or Budapest use.
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I know SEPTA has been looking into purchasing longer streetcars. Something like what Toronto or Budapest use.
More like Tacoma or Tuscon. Or possibly Boston or San Francisco. Anything bigger just won't fit in the Subway-Surface stops, or at any of the curbside locations.
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From what I gleaned from SEPTA's most recent capital plan is that they seem to be leaning towards the large articulated streetcar side of things.
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S70s would never work on the Philly system due to its heritage.
Well, all the inside info I've seen has shown S70s...I don't know if it was serving as a placeholder or not.
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Denver airport rail link set for April opening
Friday, October 23, 2015



DENVER Transit Partners, the PPP contractor building the East Rail A Line commuter rail link between Denver Union Station and Denver International Airport has notified Denver Regional Transportation District (RTD) that the 36.7km electrified line will be ready for service on April 22

The East, Gold and Northwest lines are being built by Denver Transit Partners, which will operate and maintain the lines under a 34-year contract with RTD. The total investment in these three lines is around $US 2.2bn

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Second Quarter 2015 Ridership numbers for Denver

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Denver / RTD LRT - 82,700 (2015) : 0.24% +

Bus Ridership
Denver / RTD Bus - 249,000 (2015) : -1.89%
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