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Old February 7th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #181
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Buenos Aires "Double Decker" trains in Sarmiento Line
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Old February 9th, 2011, 03:44 AM   #182
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Great map
Seems larger in the future.
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Old February 10th, 2011, 09:54 AM   #183
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@Matu: thanks for the answers.

Too bad they didn't take advantage of the works under Cabildo Ave. to extend the D line a few hundred of metres further North...
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Old February 11th, 2011, 04:50 PM   #184
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yeah indeed they could have added a lot of users from Nuñez but nowadays it's not the most important station to build, that would be the link between H D line and retiro, making the H line really useful linking the E-A-Sarmiento commuter-B-D-Retiro (mitre, Belgrano And San martin commuter lines)

if we are lucky they will start to build that on july...
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Old February 11th, 2011, 05:25 PM   #185
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Old February 16th, 2011, 08:19 PM   #186
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Estación Humberto 1º H line link to E line Jujuy Station:







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E line Jujuy station



the old stations of the E line (jujuy, pichincha, Gral. Urquiza) have ceramic murals that honors the diverse geaography of argentina, in jujuy station the mural is about the province of jujuy in northen argentina.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 12:33 AM   #187
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look at the scale: red line is 2.8km



this was in 1924, by the 40s the network was more dense.

still this is just "intramuros" BA, there were also tram networks in the suburbs.

by 1924 the network in downtown BA had 875 Km of track, more than 3.000 trams, 12.000 employees, 99 lines, and 650.000.000 pax a year.

the saddest thing is that all the tracks were renewed when a coup d'etat allied with CIA detroyed the system.
How foolish was the transport department to destroy the largest tram network of Southern Hemisphere!!


Just look the route number is 106!! I can't imagine.

However, today's returned heritage & modern tram network is very very very very small than past. There are 3 islolated tram networks. I suggest to connect each other.

Also the metro network is not so much expanded. It had started sinse 1913, but the progress is comparatively very slow.

EXPAND PREMETRO TO WARDS NORTH-EAST, OR EXPAND TRANVIA DEL ESTE TOWARDS SOUTH-WEST.
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Old March 31st, 2011, 07:54 PM   #188
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I’ve some questions (arose after viewing some websites). Please answer one by one –
1) Will line A be extended from Carabobo to Nazca?
2) Will line B be extended from De Los Incas Parque Chas to Villa Urquiza?
3) Will line D be extended from Congreso De Tucuman to Manuela Pedraza?
4) Will line E be extended from Bolivar to Retiro?
5) Will line H be extended from Corrientes to Retiro and from Caseros to Nueva Pompea?
6) Will there be a new line F from Plaza Italia to Barracas via Las Heras, Riobamba, Callao, Congreso, Entre Rios and Constitucion?
7) Will there be a new line G from Retiro to Vila Del Parque via Riobamba, Puerredon, Sarmiento, & Cid Campeador?
8) Will there be a new line I from Cudad Universitaria to Emilio Metre via Plaza Italia, Malabia, Cid Campeador & Primera Junta?
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Old April 1st, 2011, 11:33 PM   #189
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Please try to answer these -
1) What is the target year of opening line F, G & I?
2) Why line F & G were not built early than line H?
3) Left side, right side or both side, - which type of platforms are in most numbers in Buenos Aires subway network?
4) Elevated, ground level or underground, - which type of stations are in most numbers in Buenos Aires subway network?
5) Which are the highest and deepest stations of Buenos Aires metro?
6) Which is the busiest metro station?
7) Which stations have interchange facility with suburban rail network?
8) Where is/are the depot(s) of the subway network?
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Old April 1st, 2011, 11:34 PM   #190
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Line A is really fantastic, a living museum
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Old April 5th, 2011, 03:47 PM   #191
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Why Buenos Aires metro lines is known by letters, not by numbers?
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Old April 5th, 2011, 06:55 PM   #192
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It's just tradition i guess. There are some metros in the world whcih name their lines not with numbers but with letters:
-Praga
-Toulouse
-Lyon
-Porto
-Roma
-Denver
-Medelin
-New York [partly] - combined with numbers
-San Francisco [only Muni Metro]

Some metros are named after colors:
-Montreal
-Washington
-San Francisco [only BART]
-Boston
-San Diego
-Los Angeles

In my opinion the numbers are the best way to name lines. Letters almost the same, but since they are pronounciated differently in different languages its not that good
Colors are not totally wrong but adequant only for small systems with just a few lines (when you have many lines there is lack of main colors to name after. This is the case of Sao Paolo, where there is a diamant line, but what the heck is the color of diamant? For me it would be pale greenish, for other people more greyish)
But still the most failed idea is to name lines with long words, like terminals or similar, when it takes longer to call a line by its real loooong name than to have a ride on it from one terminus to another This is the case in London or Moskva
So Letters arent really that bad and strange
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Old April 8th, 2011, 07:19 AM   #193
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I’ve some questions (arose after viewing some websites). Please answer one by one –
1) Will line A be extended from Carabobo to Nazca?
2) Will line B be extended from De Los Incas Parque Chas to Villa Urquiza?
3) Will line D be extended from Congreso De Tucuman to Manuela Pedraza?
4) Will line E be extended from Bolivar to Retiro?
5) Will line H be extended from Corrientes to Retiro and from Caseros to Nueva Pompea?
6) Will there be a new line F from Plaza Italia to Barracas via Las Heras, Riobamba, Callao, Congreso, Entre Rios and Constitucion?
7) Will there be a new line G from Retiro to Vila Del Parque via Riobamba, Puerredon, Sarmiento, & Cid Campeador?
8) Will there be a new line I from Cudad Universitaria to Emilio Metre via Plaza Italia, Malabia, Cid Campeador & Primera Junta?

wow! how many questions, ahah

1&2) YES they are about to be opened, in october!

3) no, it's not in the current expansion plan.

4) yes probably will be finished in dec. 2012

5) probably the excavation will start in october for the pice (corrientes-plaza francia(1 before retiro) and from station hospitales to saenz (station nueva pompeya will not be done because the tarrain is really muddy probably in the future a not underground metro will be done.)

6,7,8) this is the total expansion program by law 670!

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Old April 8th, 2011, 07:52 AM   #194
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Please try to answer these -
1) What is the target year of opening line F, G & I?
2) Why line F & G were not built early than line H?
3) Left side, right side or both side, - which type of platforms are in most numbers in Buenos Aires subway network?
4) Elevated, ground level or underground, - which type of stations are in most numbers in Buenos Aires subway network?
5) Which are the highest and deepest stations of Buenos Aires metro?
6) Which is the busiest metro station?
7) Which stations have interchange facility with suburban rail network?
8) Where is/are the depot(s) of the subway network?
1)probably is a 15 year plan, but then again probably they are gonna take 25... the priorities are: 1)G 2) F 3)I

2) thats a very intersting story, the expansion projets changed trhough the years, the only line that hasn't changes was the H line (the first project was proposed in 1972 +-) that's why the name

5)highest line A built in 1913 the roof of the line is the avenue (the first part (plaza de mayo-congreso are higher than the second part (congrso 1 junta ))
deepest i'm not sure but i think is station 'humberto primo".

6) D line by far then B then A then C then E then H line...

7) -Plaza miserere (A) and Once (H) with estacion once de septiembre (linea Sarmiento)
-Retiro (C) with estacion Retiro (Belgrano Norte) Estación Retiro (Linea Mitre) Estación retiro (Linea San Martin)
- Constitución (C) estación constitución (Linea roca)
-Federico Lacroze (B) estación federico lacroze, (linea urquiza)
(you need to pay train fare befor, there isn't a ticket for both the train and subway.)
there are a couple of stations that let you near of the urban train(2 blocks), such as primera junta, carabobo, ministro carranza,palermo and dorrego

8) didn't understand the question, if u refer to where they repair teir trains, there is the oldest "taller"(workshop) near where I livea line)



taller rancagua in mid 90's

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taller constitucion (e line)



taller colonia (H line)

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Old April 8th, 2011, 08:09 AM   #195
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Ashis Mitra Why Buenos Aires metro lines is known by letters, not by numbers?
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It's just tradition i guess. There are some metros in the world whcih name their lines not with numbers but with letters:
-Praga
-Toulouse
-Lyon
-Porto
-Roma
-Denver
-Medelin
-New York [partly] - combined with numbers
-San Francisco [only Muni Metro]

Some metros are named after colors:
-Montreal
-Washington
-San Francisco [only BART]
-Boston
-San Diego
-Los Angeles

In my opinion the numbers are the best way to name lines. Letters almost the same, but since they are pronounciated differently in different languages its not that good
Colors are not totally wrong but adequant only for small systems with just a few lines (when you have many lines there is lack of main colors to name after. This is the case of Sao Paolo, where there is a diamant line, but what the heck is the color of diamant? For me it would be pale greenish, for other people more greyish)
But still the most failed idea is to name lines with long words, like terminals or similar, when it takes longer to call a line by its real loooong name than to have a ride on it from one terminus to another This is the case in London or Moskva
So Letters arent really that bad and strange
very true about São Paulo...but they name it line 1,azul(blue)

in BA they use letters for the underground to differ from the old tramway,now urban bus. in buenos aires you have more than 500 different bus lines all of them with numbers
1 to 200 national lines, they go in the federal capital, and in the province as well
200 to 500 provincial lines, they can't enter the federal capital they just run in the metropolitan area
500 or more municipal lines, they can only run in one "municipio" (county)

as u can see there are a lot of numbers and in 1913 the A line continued his service in the surface like a tramway and the letter A helped to tell de diference...

in our commuter system there are long names likepopulary known as )
-Linea General Urquiza (urquiza)
-Linea General Roca (roca)
-Linea General Bartolomé Mitre (mitre)
-Linea General Manuel Belgrano (norte) (belgrano norte)
-Linea Domingo Faustino Sarmiento (sarmiento)
-Linea General Manuel Belgrano (sur)(belgrano sur)

these names were given in memory of great generals or presidents of our history, so everybody remembers them. (not good for tourist)

here the new double decker train in the sarmiento line:


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Old April 10th, 2011, 09:24 PM   #196
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The first photo of this page is the heritage tram depot.

What is the largest & busiest metro station?
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Old April 11th, 2011, 08:13 AM   #197
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yes indeed the heritage tram depot uses a small part of a bigger depot of the A line wooden cars.

the buisiest stations(interchange) are the 3 under de obelisco (9 de Julio(D), Diagonal Norte (C), Carlos Pelegrini(B))

the biggest is the "estacion humberto primo" (H)
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Old April 16th, 2011, 11:06 PM   #198
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Old April 22nd, 2011, 11:35 PM   #199
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Retiro metro station has direct exit in homonymous rail station premises. Previously it also had tram service, which will return soon in future.
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so does Once (A(plaza miserere) and H(once) lines), Constitucion (homonymous C line) and federico lacroze (homonymous B line)

constitucion



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