Spiceal St | Bullring | 20 000 sq ft food retail | Comp.

[sefton66]

10PM would be fine! the current 8PM closing time is a joke!

[Erebus555]

Yeah but how dead is the city centre by 8pm anyway...

[sefton66]

Yeah but thats because theres no point going town if all the shhops are shutting at 8PM by the time the majority of people have finished work been home to get changed and got back into town its hardly worth it. Merry Hill is open later and that seems to be busy on the night. If they are applying to keep the restaurants open even later which at present are 11PM it only encourages the retailers to want to stay open and with JL opening im sure Debenhams and Selfridges will want to have extended opening hours, with that other retailers will follow in the bullring and then hopefully the shops on corporation st/new st/high st etc. will extend there opening hours so town wont be dead after 8PM. It just needs one big retailer to push through with it and the rest will tend to follow. Ive never understood why the Bullring has shut so early, I would have expected it to atleast be open later one night a week as many shopping centres.

To be honest I think what will happen is that they will extend the liscencing time at the restaurants untill say 12PM from the current 11PM and then create a one night a week late night shopping night as a trial period of say 6 - 12 months with a lot of marketing on it so people are aware and then based on this go for a 10PM closure all week.

[djay]

i work in bullring and its pretty much dead come 6pm... may be a little better if the high street didn't close at 5.30-6pm.

Also unless something extreme is done to debenhams, it wont be here many years after JL opens! Debenhams were open till 10pm all of last week... weren't too busy when i was in their.

[djay]

double post

[ReissOmari]

Thing is, with Merry Hill, its an out of city shopping centre, which means more people tend to spend more time there because the've had to travel out, as for town, its just town lol...

Here's some photo's i took earlier today, you can clearly see the areas fenced off

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[ellbrown]

So is it like it was when the Bullring was redeveloped from 2001-3 ?

Thanks for the pics Reiss!

Those Meteor rock plaques are stuck within here now.

[Typhoon2000]

Originally Posted by sefton66

Yeah but thats because theres no point going town if all the shhops are shutting at 8PM by the time the majority of people have finished work been home to get changed and got back into town its hardly worth it. Merry Hill is open later and that seems to be busy on the night. If they are applying to keep the restaurants open even later which at present are 11PM it only encourages the retailers to want to stay open and with JL opening im sure Debenhams and Selfridges will want to have extended opening hours, with that other retailers will follow in the bullring and then hopefully the shops on corporation st/new st/high st etc. will extend there opening hours so town wont be dead after 8PM. It just needs one big retailer to push through with it and the rest will tend to follow. Ive never understood why the Bullring has shut so early, I would have expected it to atleast be open later one night a week as many shopping centres.

To be honest I think what will happen is that they will extend the liscencing time at the restaurants untill say 12PM from the current 11PM and then create a one night a week late night shopping night as a trial period of say 6 - 12 months with a lot of marketing on it so people are aware and then based on this go for a 10PM closure all week.

Well, the solution to this:

Free short-stay (up to three hours) parking (or at a very low flat-rate) after 7pm.. not a difficult concept and it's the main reason why these out of town places stay open so late. Let people know about it and watch them flood in.

[blahblah]

Originally Posted by ellbrown

So is it like it was when the Bullring was redeveloped from 2001-3 ?

Yes and no.

During the demolition and part way through the construction of the frame of the new building there was a temporary walkway from the back of the Rotunda down to the markets. Quite an amazing place to walk by as you could get quite close to the works and look down right into the foundations. As the building rose, the level of the works gradually levelled with the walkway and then eventually rose up around and over it.

Once the state of the main walkway between the Rotunda & The Markets was in a suitable state, the temporary walkway was removed and pedestrians could use the new route which is there now. It was fenced off in roughly the same way as the pictures show now.


You can just about see the walkway here. The sloping structure running horizontally across the middle of the pic.


Here's another

Also if you go on Google Earth to view the Bullring, and roll the timeline back to Jan 2001 - You can see the walkway's position

[woodhousen]

it was an awful walkway..... and they didnt think to put any CCTV cameras in it.... me and my then bf were mugged there once :o(

[ellbrown]

Most of that time I was away at University, but did see it when I came home in the holidays. Do remember the bottom of New Street being blocked off.

[JonW67]

At least we have something new to move into the construction forum! (Hint!)

[woodhousen]

hint taken...

[ellbrown]

I think the Horatio Nelson statue is quite close to the yellow fences (from what I saw from the bus)

(Photo from August 2009)
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Statue of Nelson in the Bullring by ell brown, on Flickr

[feltip]

Was it really necessary to post a picture when we all know what the statue looks like and Reiss' post above, quoted below, shows the statue and the nearby railings.

Originally Posted by ReissOmari

Thing is, with Merry Hill, its an out of city shopping centre, which means more people tend to spend more time there because the've had to travel out, as for town, its just town lol...

Here's some photo's i took earlier today, you can clearly see the areas fenced off






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[nigeman]

You can just about see the walkway here. The sloping structure running horizontally across the middle of the pic.


Here's another

Look how good the Rotunda looked then with its top intact and the incomplete embarrassing eyesore it as now become

[ROYAL BLUE]

Originally Posted by nigeman

Look how good the Rotunda looked then with its top intact and the incomplete embarrassing eyesore it as now become

Sorry mate, but even without the top completed its far better looking now then it was in the 90's. It was abandoned and in a shocking state.

[ellbrown]

Originally Posted by feltip

Was it really necessary to post a picture when we all know what the statue looks like and Reiss' post above, quoted below, shows the statue and the nearby railings.

Just to show what it used to look like before. Is now hoardings in front of it.

Black gates at the bottom next to St Martin's Church.

I haven't got time myself to get shots from there at the moment.

[Brummyboy92]

Bloody hell man, people love to moan about pointless things on this forum.

[feltip]

Pot and kettle and black spring to mind.

I'm not moaning because i like to moan; some of us would like to be able to read posts and keep upto date on what's happening without reading questions to which an answer has been posted in the preceding posts or seeing pictures posted for sake of extra thread posts.

I'm aware we all do it, myself included, but it's nice to try and aim to keep threads for the topics they cover and to actually read posts.