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Old January 25th, 2017, 01:32 AM   #2001
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But I keep asking:
Since when are CR and not CRH?
Up to now they were CRH350A and B, and the first one is circulated for six months on the Dalian – Shenyang line.
After the merge the new train model number will start with CR for CRRC.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 02:47 AM   #2002
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Old February 16th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #2003
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CRRC 3X EMU prototype 90% complete

http://companies.caixin.com/2017-02-16/101055913.html

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Old February 27th, 2017, 07:02 PM   #2004
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We have already talked about the subject here, but I still do not understand it, it seems to be the same train even if it has changed its name

CHINA Railways Corporation inaugurated its new standard high-speed EMU, which has been under development since 2012, on the Dalian – Shenyang line on August 15.

The first CRH400AF China Standard EMU prototype developed by CRRC Qingdao Sifang was officially put into revenue service on the Beijing – Guangzhou high speed line on February 25,
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Old April 2nd, 2017, 07:54 AM   #2005
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CJ6-0601

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由中车株机公司生产的时速160公里城际动车组近日揭开神秘面纱,列车暂定名CJ6-0601。列车编组4辆,2车、3车设有受电弓、无障碍席位,卫生间设在3车。列车内部采用城际动车组常用的“2+2”式座椅排布方式,并以车门为中心对称展开,全列约254张座位。CJ6型动车组的研制有望成为中车株机进入国内动车组市场的跳板。
By CRRC Zhuzhou Co.Ltd produced 160 km per hour inter-city EMU recently opened the mystery, the train tentatively named CJ6-0601. Train group 4, 2 cars, 3 cars with pantograph, barrier seats, bathroom located in 3 cars. Train internal use of inter-city EMU commonly used "2 +2" type seat arrangement, and the door as the center symmetry to start, the whole section of about 254 seats. CJ6-type EMU development is expected to become the train machine into the domestic EMU market springboard.















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Old June 25th, 2017, 05:46 PM   #2006
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China-standard EMU trains launched for operation with official name

China on Sunday designated call letters to its latest models of bullet trains just prior to their official commissioning to service. These bullet trains will start traveling between Beijing and Shanghai from Monday onwards.

Two models of "China-standard" EMU bullet trains are named "Fuxing CR400AF" and "Fuxing CR400BF" respectively. The word of Fuxing means rejuvenation; the letters of EMU stand for electric multiple unit; CR stand for China Railway; the numeral of 400 represents the capable travel speed of up to 400 kilometers per hour; the A and B as in AF and BF indicate different train makers and both F's indicate decentralized power unit.



China solely designs and owns intellectual property rights of these models.

These two models obtained their quality certification and manufacturing permission from the National Railway Administration in January.

In July last year, two "China-standard" bullet trains passed by each other on parallel tracks in opposite directions traveling at 420 kilometers per hour in a test run.

The development of the EMU bullet trains involved nearly 300 enterprises specializing in machinery, metallurgy, electronics, chemicals, computer and information management. All components corresponding to key and complementary technologies are produced in China.

China now has the world's largest bullet train fleet and the world's largest high-speed rail network, totaling 22,000 kilometers by the end of 2016.

Of the 2.77 billion railway passenger trips in China last year, more than half were made on EMU bullet trains.











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Old June 26th, 2017, 02:06 AM   #2007
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I guess this ends the CRH series, farewell to harmony.

The CJ6 series seems to be derived from the 250 km/h regional service version of CRH6 rather the 180 km/h commuter version. I wonder what's holding it back.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 04:47 AM   #2008
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EMU bullet trains are named "Fuxing CR400AF"

Please God don't name it Fuxing, the joke will be fuxing endless.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 06:10 AM   #2009
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Interesting how they've deviated from the Blue and White color scheme. Does this mean the end of Blue and White for high speed rail?
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Old June 26th, 2017, 08:16 AM   #2010
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Interesting how they've deviated from the Blue and White color scheme. Does this mean the end of Blue and White for high speed rail?
Not only is the Blue and White scheme gone, the CRH logo is gone too. It has has the normal rail logo just like slow speed rail. I guess, these things are just trains now.... Given HSR is more mainstream than conventional in terms of passenger volume, it is expected. It would be funny if older CRH train sets starts adopts the green and yellow scheme....
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Old June 26th, 2017, 04:11 PM   #2012
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These bullet trains will start traveling between Beijing and Shanghai from Monday onwards.
Any chance a speed up of Beijing-Shanghai happening soon?

I heard that Russia asked China to develop 400kmph trainsets for Moscow - Kazan, and for the proposed Moscow- Astana - Urumqi - Beijing line.

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The word of Fuxing means rejuvenation
Rejuvenation of the Silk Road I wonder?
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Old June 26th, 2017, 04:40 PM   #2014
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China's new high-speed train debuts on Beijing-Shanghai route

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20..._136395511.htm

BEIJING, June 26 (Xinhua) -- China's next generation bullet train "Fuxing" debuted on the Beijing-Shanghai line on Monday.

A CR400AF model departed Beijing South Railway Station at 11:05 a.m. for Shanghai. At the same time, the CR400BF model left Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station for Beijing.

The new bullet trains, also known as electric multiple units (EMU),boast top speeds of 400 kilometers an hour and a consistent speed of 350 kilometers an hour.

The train was designed and manufactured by China.

The train includes a sophisticated monitoring system that constantly checks its performance and automatically slows the train in case of emergencies or abnormal conditions.

Thanks to a remote data-transmission system, a control center will be able to monitor the train in real time.



Lu Dongfu, general manager of China Railway Corp., operator of the new train, said "Fuxing" (rejuvenation), underpins the unique role that high-speed railway has played in China's economic and social development.

Previous bullet trains featured the characters "Hexiehao" (harmony), on the exterior of each train.

China has the world's longest railway network, 22,000 kilometers by the end of 2016, about 60 percent of the world's total.

Beijing-Shanghai railway line is China's busiest route, used by 50,5000 passengers daily.


Photo taken on June 26, 2017 shows the China's new bullet train "Fuxing" at Beijing South Railway Station in Beijing, capital of China. China's next generation bullet train "Fuxing" debuted on the Beijing-Shanghai line on Monday. A CR400AF model departed Beijing South Railway Station at 11:05 a.m. for Shanghai. At the same time, the CR400BF model left Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station for Beijing.

















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Old June 26th, 2017, 06:11 PM   #2016
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Lu Dongfu, general manager of China Railway Corp., operator of the new train, said "Fuxing" (rejuvenation), underpins the unique role that high-speed railway has played in China's economic and social development.

Previous bullet trains featured the characters "Hexiehao" (harmony), on the exterior of each train.
River crab?
Has "rejuvenation" been heard of outside CRH, like "harmony" was?
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So are these Fuxing trains supposed to run at 350km/h?
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Old June 26th, 2017, 11:32 PM   #2018
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So are these Fuxing trains supposed to run at 350km/h?
Yes it seems: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peop...in-Fuxing.html

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The train boasts a top speed of 400kmh (248mph) and a consistent speed of 350kmh (217mph)

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Old June 27th, 2017, 12:53 AM   #2019
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There's quite a focus on the... hey guys... we built and designed this... NO, seriously... we did!!! By the way, we designed these trains all by ourselves.
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This is not a reflection on your post tjrgx, as you're just repeating what was said, but it's as if this statement on CCTV is more meant for show or braggadocio than anything else. Or perhaps if they repeat it enough the local Chinese citizens will give it more credibility.

There's nothing wrong with licensing tech/tech transfer, then improving it for your own use afterwards. No need to be all showy about it. It's not as if any manufacturer has built this technology from scratch... no one's reinventing the wheel here. I think it's great that China has taken tech from Japan and Europe to learn how to build these trains and then build them locally, but making flash statements like "We OWN ALL THE TECHNOLOGY" is disingenous at best.
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Old June 27th, 2017, 01:20 AM   #2020
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There's quite a focus on the... hey guys... we built and designed this... NO, seriously... we did!!! By the way, we designed these trains all by ourselves.


This is not a reflection on your post tjrgx, as you're just repeating what was said, but it's as if this statement on CCTV is more meant for show or braggadocio than anything else. Or perhaps if they repeat it enough the local Chinese citizens will give it more credibility.

There's nothing wrong with licensing tech/tech transfer, then improving it for your own use afterwards. No need to be all showy about it. It's not as if any manufacturer has built this technology from scratch... no one's reinventing the wheel here. I think it's great that China has taken tech from Japan and Europe to learn how to build these trains and then build them locally, but making flash statements like "We OWN ALL THE TECHNOLOGY" is disingenous at best.
This was also the case with CRH380A which was claimed to be 'the first indigenous high-speed train' in China. Now the same thing with CR400AF/CR400BF. Not that it really matters or makes any difference but it does sound a little funny. Especially 7 years after the initial claim. It's like we forgot about the CRH380A and therefore the claim can be reused for these new trains. Perhaps they'll decide to use it for some new train model in 2025?

I know it's all about marketing and PR but perhaps CRC (or whoever is developing those trainsets) should have employed a more experienced and professional advertising/PR agency to produce marketing material for those trainsets (which I have no doubt are excellent).
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