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Old January 7th, 2011, 12:46 AM   #661
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http://www.xinhuanet.com/chinanews/2...t_21802886.htm

it says CRH5 may export to Scandinavia, Russia and Canada
I don't see the CRH5 coming to Canada anytime soon or in the distant future, the CAW is going to be a major barrier who are already carrying out a lot of Bombardier operations.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 10:02 AM   #662
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CHINA'S MAJOR TRAIN MAKER MERGER STILL ON TRACK
6 January 2011
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BEIJING, Jan 6 Asia Pulse - China's state-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (SASAC) restarted the consolidation plan of China's two largest train makers as it hopes to enhance competitiveness and improve operations in government-controlled companies.

The proposed merger, first mooted in early 2003, will involve China North Locomotive & Rolling Stock Industry Group Corporation (CNR) and China South Locomotive & Rolling Stock Industry Group Corporation (CSR, SSE:601766, SEHK:1766), an executive from CSR said.

SASAC, which is both a regulator of and shareholder in China's largest State companies, regarded the merger of CSR and CNR as a new target in the 12th Five Year Plan (2011-2015), according to a report from 21 Century Business Herald.

Earlier in 2003, media reported that SASAC expected CSR and CNR to be merged, but the plan was set aside as none of the two parties was willing to follow through with the plan.

But since August 2010 when Wang Yong replaced Li Rongrong as SASAC director, the plan was restarted and set as a new target in the next five year plan, an unnamed executive from CSR was quoted by 21 Century Business Herald.

A company insider told China Daily that the plan is yet to be implemented at the company level.

CSR and CNR were separated from its former China Railway Locomotive & Rolling Stock Industry Corporation by northern and southern regions in 2000.

The two companies are matched in strength, by 2015, CSR is projected to achieve revenue of 150 billion yuan (US$22.76 billion) and CNR's revenue to reach 140 billion yuan.

"Products from CSR and CNR are quite similar, so they always have competition, especially in the international markets," said the company insider.

"The Ministry of Railways and SASAC propelled the merger to avoid hostile competition and to enhance China's international position in the high-speed train manufacturing sector."

"But neither of the two companies is willing to be merged due to the inevitable realignment of the management team," he said.

Last year, SASAC encouraged State-owned enterprises (SOEs) to accelerate the pace of consolidation, axing 122 central SOEs.

Since China rolled out the first high-speed railway between Be ijing and Tianjin in 2008, the country's high-speed rail network ranks No 1 for both speed and distance.

China's latest fast train, the CRH380A, built by CSR, set a world record on Dec 3 by hitting 486.1 km an hour during a trial run on the Beijing-Shanghai High-Speed Railway.

China is operating a high-speed rail network with a combined length of 7,531 kilometers, the world's longest. By 2012 this figure will almost double to 13,000 km.

CSR, now the word's third-largest high-speed train producer, behind Bombardier and Alstom, is aiming to become the global No 1 in the high-speed railway manufacturing sector, Zheng Changhong, president of CSR said.

"The next five years will be a peak-period in terms of railway construction in China, with annual investment touching 700 billion yuan," he said.

CSR and CNR both aimed to take a bigger slice of the global pie.

CSR signed an agreement with General Electric in December 2010 to establish a 50-50 joint venture to manufacture high-speed trains in the US using China's technology.

Alstom may bid with Chinese partners for high-speed rail contracts in the US, Brazil and Argentina under an agreement to boost cooperation, CEO Patrick Kron was quoted by Bloomberg on Dec 8.

Since 2003, China has signed agreements or memoranda of understanding for bilateral cooperation on railways with more than 30 countries, including the US, Russia, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Poland and India.

According to the government's blueprint, China's railway network will serve more than 90 per cent of the population by 2020, with a budget of 2 trillion yuan, and 16,000 kilometers of new lines.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 01:44 PM   #663
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The article only indicates that those countries expressed interest in this train, because it's the only CRH in China that can operate normally in -40C temperature. I don't think any of them have serious intention to purchase one in the future.

Interesting. What about the other CRHs whats the lowest temperatures they can operate on?
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Old January 7th, 2011, 10:00 PM   #664
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Interesting. What about the other CRHs whats the lowest temperatures they can operate on?
AFAIK the original operating temperature requirement for all CRH trainsets are -40C to 40C, but somehow that requirement was not enforced on CRH1 and 2.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 10:24 PM   #665
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We don't really see CRH1Es very often.
Has anybody seen the inside of CRH1E deluxe soft sleeper?
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Old January 11th, 2011, 02:43 AM   #666
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January 9, 2011, at 17:15 Beijing Times, a CRH380BL scores 487.3 km/h during trail run at Xuzhou - Bengbu section of the Jinghu PDL, sets new world record for unmodified High Speed trainset.

I bet the MOR could refresh the world record every month a time if they want.

http://stock.sohu.com/20110110/n278782856.shtml
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Old January 11th, 2011, 03:51 AM   #667
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January 9, 2011, at 17:15 Beijing Times, a CRH380BL scores 487.3 km/h during trail run at Xuzhou - Bengbu section of the Jinghu PDL, sets new world record for unmodified High Speed trainset.

I bet the MOR could refresh the world record every month a time if they want.

http://stock.sohu.com/20110110/n278782856.shtml
Alright! Another record, cool...
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Old January 11th, 2011, 04:53 AM   #668
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January 9, 2011, at 17:15 Beijing Times, a CRH380BL scores 487.3 km/h during trail run at Xuzhou - Bengbu section of the Jinghu PDL, sets new world record for unmodified High Speed trainset.

I bet the MOR could refresh the world record every month a time if they want.

http://stock.sohu.com/20110110/n278782856.shtml
But this particular test train is said to be modified. If it is really unmodified, it won't be so low-profile, especially considering it is made by Tangshan
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Old January 11th, 2011, 04:56 AM   #669
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Note this time it's CRH380BL, so both 380kph rated trainsets now have achieved speed above 486kph. I suspect that will become the benchmark for CRH380C and D as well.
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Old January 11th, 2011, 05:23 AM   #670
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But this particular test train is said to be modified. If it is really unmodified, it won't be so low-profile, especially considering it is made by Tangshan
My fault, it's modified version, CRH380B-6402L, fomation changed from 8M8T to 8M4T
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Old January 11th, 2011, 05:58 AM   #671
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But this particular test train is said to be modified. If it is really unmodified, it won't be so low-profile, especially considering it is made by Tangshan
That's what i heard as well.... the test set was modified from CRH380-6402BL from 8M8T to 8M4T.

EDIT: lol... right after greenlion posts his reply =P

Still no news on CRH380AL delivery status?

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Old January 12th, 2011, 09:51 AM   #672
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CRH1E and CRH2E, Beijing South Station, Jinghu Railway departure platform,

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Old January 12th, 2011, 02:58 PM   #673
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Beijing South Railway Station is too big for me, and I can't find the departure layer in my first time be there. I hate the big Station.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 04:16 AM   #674
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CRH1E and CRH2E, Beijing South Station, Jinghu Railway departure platform,



Let's have a drag race..
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^ those are nice pics. It would be great if theres a pic of all the types of CRH together on the platform.
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Old January 16th, 2011, 03:04 AM   #676
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First CRH380BL set in service:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0cib-HkW04
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Old January 16th, 2011, 04:45 AM   #677
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^ those are nice pics. It would be great if theres a pic of all the types of CRH together on the platform.
One might have an opportunity to do that in Beijing South, maybe?
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Old January 16th, 2011, 05:33 AM   #678
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How many cars (22?) ?



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The CRH380BL-6402, that got a 487km/h on 9th of January 2011 was a modified train, where 4 trailer cars were left out and traction power raised.
It survived the high-speed run without damages on component - in contrary to the catinary, which had to be maintained for three days after the run.

The CRH380AL, which has done his 486km/h run on 3rd of January 2011, was - according to rumors and persons, who have seen the train on CARS testring in Beijing - a 14-car-train (instead of 16 cars in normal trainset). Train shall be on it's way to museum, suffering serious damages on motors and boogies (boogie on CHR380A is a modified version of CRH2-boogie with additional dampers and anti-roll-bar).

I would be pleased if somebody could verify the 14-car-thesis on pictures of record train.
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