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Old October 2nd, 2010, 07:44 PM   #61
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Looking at the interior I get the impression that all seats are orientated in the same direction. Do these seats rotate?
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 08:00 PM   #62
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yes, the workers rotate them after every run
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 09:59 PM   #63
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Yikes. That will end once China's wages catch up with Western ones
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 09:52 AM   #64
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 10:42 AM   #65
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Yikes. That will end once China's wages catch up with Western ones
Then they'll replace them with motors, like in the Shinkansen...
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 03:32 PM   #66
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Then they'll replace them with motors, like in the Shinkansen...
Perhaps, but the main reason the seats on the shinkansen are motorized is to save time. On the Shinkansen, each train only has 12 minutes turnaround time at Tokyo Station terminal (time from arrival to departure)- 2 minutes for passengers to disembark, 7 minutes for cleaning, and 3 minutes for boarding. Manually rotating those seats would take up too much time. I don't know the typical turnaround times for CRH trains.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 03:57 PM   #67
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Perhaps, but the main reason the seats on the shinkansen are motorized is to save time. On the Shinkansen, each train only has 12 minutes turnaround time at Tokyo Station terminal (time from arrival to departure)- 2 minutes for passengers to disembark, 7 minutes for cleaning, and 3 minutes for boarding. Manually rotating those seats would take up too much time. I don't know the typical turnaround times for CRH trains.
The turnaround time could be as short as 15 minutes on Beijing-Tianjin Line.

There are 10 or 20 cleaners waiting on platform, once a train stops, they get on the trains, rotate seats and other jobs. It usually takes 3 to 5 minutes to rotate all seats, and then they get off and get on another coming train do the same thing.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 06:49 PM   #68
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Well, that's China and manpower for you....Loads of them.....haha
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Old October 4th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #69
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This is perhaps the best looking train in service anywhere. So I suppose we shall be seeing this in California?
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This is perhaps the best looking train in service anywhere. So I suppose we shall be seeing this in California?
Have you seen European (especially German) high speed trains?

I think they are better designed with respect to style and function.

Chinese designers have a long way to go before they can catch up with Western designers.

Taste is not something to be cultivated in a matter of years. It will take decades.
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Old October 4th, 2010, 01:27 AM   #71
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Have you seen European (especially German) high speed trains?

I think they are better designed with respect to style and function.

Chinese designers have a long way to go before they can catch up with Western designers.

Taste is not something to be cultivated in a matter of years. It will take decades.
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Old October 4th, 2010, 01:37 AM   #72
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Have you seen European (especially German) high speed trains?

I think they are better designed with respect to style and function.

Chinese designers have a long way to go before they can catch up with Western designers.

Taste is not something to be cultivated in a matter of years. It will take decades.
I've been on French, Italian, and Swiss HSRs, and I took the CRH3, which at least looks the same as the Siemens Velaro in China. I do know my HSR, and the CRH380A the best I've seen.
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Old October 4th, 2010, 01:49 AM   #73
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Can't wait for the maglev in China and other faster trains that can reach 600 km/h come out and operating
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Old October 4th, 2010, 12:16 PM   #74
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Have you seen European (especially German) high speed trains?

I think they are better designed with respect to style and function.

Chinese designers have a long way to go before they can catch up with Western designers.

Taste is not something to be cultivated in a matter of years. It will take decades.
um, earlier it was the true "speed", now it is the "taste". All I see though is someone crawling back into his little shell bit by bit, offended by the reality that is inexorably encroaching upon his imaginary world
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Old October 4th, 2010, 12:19 PM   #75
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Can't wait for the maglev in China and other faster trains that can reach 600 km/h come out and operating
id like to see the swissmetro vacum-tube concept miself but thats a reach
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Old October 5th, 2010, 12:45 AM   #76
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I love how the window shoppers first argued how everything China had were exact copies of their trains. Now they're saying how the differences make theirs better. Stop contradicting yourselves. If it's bad, it's your bad.
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Old October 5th, 2010, 01:56 AM   #77
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I love how the window shoppers first argued how everything China had were exact copies of their trains. Now they're saying how the differences make theirs better. Stop contradicting yourselves. If it's bad, it's your bad.
Dear Bandit,

China did import western railways HST technology. They have implemented it and now they are starting to manufacture ther own earlier chinese VHST versions.

Soon the Chinese will export their own VHST technology worldwide with tailor made products to suit local makets.

As you know the train was invented in the UK, then exported worldwide and nowadays the UK buy German, French and Japanese trains.

In the future Europe and the rest of the world will buy Chinese trains.

Also China, for demographical and geographical reason, is well suited for the further development of maglev technology....


In case you wonder who I am: I am of Italian origin, widowed, my late wife was American, and I have been living in the UK for the last 30 years.....
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Old October 5th, 2010, 10:59 AM   #78
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Dear Bandit,

China did import western railways HST technology. They have implemented it and now they are starting to manufacture ther own earlier chinese VHST versions.

Soon the Chinese will export their own VHST technology worldwide with tailor made products to suit local makets.

As you know the train was invented in the UK, then exported worldwide and nowadays the UK buy German, French and Japanese trains.

In the future Europe and the rest of the world will buy Chinese trains.

Also China, for demographical and geographical reason, is well suited for the further development of maglev technology....
Good, let's have this race. Let's have this race the same way the world had a space race during the Cold War. We put a man on the moon then, and now we'll shrink Eurasia with maglev lines. Let's do it!
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Old October 5th, 2010, 10:39 PM   #79
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Good, let's have this race. Let's have this race the same way the world had a space race during the Cold War. We put a man on the moon then, and now we'll shrink Eurasia with maglev lines. Let's do it!
In a few decades we might well have a few continental/intercontinental maglev lines. Who knows.....
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Old October 7th, 2010, 08:43 AM   #80
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We're also hearing that for decades, so I don't hold my breath anymore
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