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Old May 1st, 2011, 12:20 AM   #781
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Old May 15th, 2011, 04:29 AM   #782
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CIT400A Test video
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Old May 15th, 2011, 01:26 PM   #783
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is that a "dr yellow"?
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Old May 15th, 2011, 08:26 PM   #784
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This is a train that will use to break world railway speed record, called CIT400A / CRH400A
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Old May 15th, 2011, 10:31 PM   #785
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China's self-made maglev trainset now in commercial serv





botton:Looks like original TR, but no, its an other copy!!!
Notice: This photo is maby a second trainset with the same front windows as the original TR. [Or] maby it is the rear end of the shown train above. You can see the air outlets at the side, the chinese markins and the different "black" painting on the nose:



























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Old May 16th, 2011, 01:08 AM   #786
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Why didn't they make their own maglev a bit more streamlined?

I always wondered why the Transrapids were less streamlined than railed HSTs or the Japanese maglev. Especially after noticing how bumpy the ride was at 431 km/h. I wouldn't have wanted to take that bumpy ride all the way from Shanghai to Beijing.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 01:38 AM   #787
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CRH380C being assembled in CNR Changchun factory
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Old May 16th, 2011, 04:54 AM   #788
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CRH380C: CRH380B-train with modified nose, HITACHI-component for traction and on-board power supply.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 05:20 AM   #789
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Seriously, do they really have to copy everything??? With the exception of the crappy looking windows it is an exact copy of the German one.

How about designing and developing your own stuff for once.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 06:50 AM   #790
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Seriously, do they really have to copy everything??? With the exception of the crappy looking windows it is an exact copy of the German one.

How about designing and developing your own stuff for once.
I am not sure why the Shanghai maglev would need more trains, but in such a case, using local builders with tech transfer is probably the most cost-effective solution.

Although it makes sense to use the same body shape and colour scheme since they run on the same short line, one can easily tell that the details and overall finish of the local-made train units are definitely inferior. Oh well.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 06:56 AM   #791
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Seriously, do they really have to copy everything??? With the exception of the crappy looking windows it is an exact copy of the German one.

How about designing and developing your own stuff for once.
why are you so pissed off by some transrapid licensed products? just because they are made in China partially with Transrapid parts?
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Old May 17th, 2011, 08:08 AM   #792
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Why didn't they make their own maglev a bit more streamlined?

I always wondered why the Transrapids were less streamlined than railed HSTs or the Japanese maglev. Especially after noticing how bumpy the ride was at 431 km/h. I wouldn't have wanted to take that bumpy ride all the way from Shanghai to Beijing.
Well, it's not going to happen. There isn't going to be a maglev line connecting Shanghai and Beijing.
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Old May 17th, 2011, 08:09 AM   #793
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Seriously, do they really have to copy everything??? With the exception of the crappy looking windows it is an exact copy of the German one.

How about designing and developing your own stuff for once.
Check out the CRH380A. It's completely designed and developed in China.
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Old May 17th, 2011, 08:20 AM   #794
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Check out the CRH380A. It's completely designed and developed in China.
Although it has *a lot* of design elements arising directly from the Japanese Shinkansen still.
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Old May 17th, 2011, 07:27 PM   #795
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I understand why there's so much jealousy in this thread.

Myself, I'm very jealous of Chinese improuvement with HST. I also would like my country to have the only operative Maglev, the first two Maglev metro lines, the fastests trains in the world, the longest HSR network, ballast-less track everywhere, and transferred, stolen, or own developped HSR know-how and technology (I don't care how was it acquired, the important matter is to have it, with some posters criteria Italians shouldn't eat pasta because Marco Polo transferred know how from China).
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Although it has *a lot* of design elements arising directly from the Japanese Shinkansen still.
Correct. Saying it was "completely" designed and developed in China is quite far-fetched.
But nonetheless, the train was certainly heavily redesigned and modified.

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I understand why there's so much jealousy in this thread.

Myself, I'm very jealous of Chinese improuvement with HST. I also would like my country to have the only operative Maglev, the first two Maglev metro lines, the fastests trains in the world, the longest HSR network, ballast-less track everywhere, and transferred, stolen, or own developped HSR know-how and technology (I don't care how was it acquired, the important matter is to have it, with some posters criteria Italians shouldn't eat pasta because Marco Polo transferred know how from China).
oh, and you are just a troll, fueling the old argument once again.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 04:21 AM   #797
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Let's see how it will develop in China in future.
After detaining MOR-minister Liu it is said that the focus is changed to affordable travelling.
The redesign of seating e.g. in CRH380BL-trains and limiting orders of new high-speed-trains (does CRH380D really come???) shows the new way of thinking.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 04:49 AM   #798
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CRH380D won't be delivered before mid 2012 anyway according to the original plan. Whether the previous order of 80 CRH380D will be limited or not, BST is currently making those trains.
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Old May 18th, 2011, 05:07 AM   #799
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CSR Zhuzhou Times New Material of air spring products to enter the field of high-speed car

2011-05-11

Recently, CSR Times New Materials Business Division elastic component ZEFRIO 380 successful projects high-speed car air spring 1280 the first set of bulk orders, contract value 14 million yuan, marking a new era of air spring products, materials officially entered the field of high-speed car, into the high-speed the ranks of the field of international advanced technology vehicles.
ZEFRIO 380 high-speed car air spring project is running in today's international high-speed vehicles to the highest standards, the air spring is elastic suspension components in rail transport the highest technological content of products. CSR Zhuzhou Times New Material air spring strength, range, in the formulation, structure involves, technology and other aspects of the formation of a unique core technology. Meanwhile, with the series over the years on the air spring technology accumulation, with vehicle manufacturers and rail transportation company Bombardier's internationally renowned strategic partnership, to carry out exchanges and cooperation in many areas, and to send technicians to further study in Germany Bombardier company learning measures. Through the tireless efforts of recent years, CSR Times New air spring design and material research and development capabilities are among the world advanced level, with air springs with the same stage of Europe's leading supplier of power.
It is reported that CSR Times customers very satisfied with the new material products, the era of new material is actively seeking another local landmark project in Europe - ZEFRIO 350 Italian high-speed car air spring project, the current CSR Times of new material technologies rating behind in the first position, the air springs market development overseas and domestic market share of other high-speed vehicles will play a huge role in promoting.


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