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Old October 1st, 2010, 04:30 AM   #81
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We are talking about the fastest train
Nobody(except you) is talking about the fastest train. Read the title and and pay attention to the word 'operating'.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 06:02 AM   #82
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You are the one who is arrogant and ignorant. Learn some manners.

It doesn't matter whether the train is commercially running. We are talking about the fastest train, not the fastest commercially running train.

It pays to use more sense and less emotion.

And use the dictionary whenever you can. Thanks.


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Old October 1st, 2010, 09:46 AM   #83
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You are the one who is arrogant and ignorant. Learn some manners.

It doesn't matter whether the train is commercially running. We are talking about the fastest train, not the fastest commercially running train.

It pays to use more sense and less emotion.

And use the dictionary whenever you can. Thanks.

Where's the moderator? Ban him for trolling.
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Old October 1st, 2010, 10:13 AM   #84
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Old October 1st, 2010, 11:54 AM   #85
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We are talking about the fastest train, not the fastest commercially running train.
No, we are not. Well, maybe YOU are talking about the fastest train, tout court. In which case you are wrong. Because V150 is not as fast as the Japanese Maglev.

But the fact of the matter is, WE are talking about the fastest unmodified train sets based on the wheel-technology and used for commercial service. And THAT is the CRH380A since a couple of a days ago.

Either way, you are wrong, and clearly wrong.

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How embarrassing. If I were you, I'd take that advice for myself and try not to make a fool of myself
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Old October 1st, 2010, 10:54 PM   #86
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The data from uic is not updated and not including the 2876km upgraded existing lines. The accurate number is 7055km in operatioin, which is more than the whole europe combined.
http://www.sh.xinhuanet.com/zhuanti/...t_21022633.htm
Agree, if they counted the Acela as HSR then the almost 3000km of upgraded existing lines running EMUs should definitely count towards China's total HSR mileage.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 06:11 PM   #87
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September 30 & October 1, CRH380A enter temporary service at Huning PDL (Shanghai-Nanjing HSR), during the test operating, top speed reach 342km/h.

CRH380A at Changzhou Station



inside




Second class carriage



Dining car



first class carriage


VIP carriage


CRH380A at Nanjing Station





at Danyang Station

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Old October 2nd, 2010, 06:58 PM   #88
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The data from uic is not updated and not including the 2876km upgraded existing lines. The accurate number is 7055km in operatioin, which is more than the whole europe combined.
http://www.sh.xinhuanet.com/zhuanti/...t_21022633.htm
http://business.sohu.com/20070413/n249400823.shtml
http://english.cri.cn/6909/2010/10/02/45s597484.htm

upgrade convientional railway at 200km/h 5,157km
upgrade convientional railway at 250km/h 846km

HSR at 250 km/h 5,060km
HSR at 350 km/h 1,955km
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 07:57 PM   #89
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Thanks greenlion. CRH380A is one of the best looking trains.
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 08:44 PM   #90
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Looking at the interior I get the impression that all seats are orientated in the same direction. Do these seats rotate?
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 09:00 PM   #91
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yes, the workers rotate them after every run
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Old October 2nd, 2010, 10:59 PM   #92
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Yikes. That will end once China's wages catch up with Western ones
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 10:52 AM   #93
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 11:42 AM   #94
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Yikes. That will end once China's wages catch up with Western ones
Then they'll replace them with motors, like in the Shinkansen...
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 04:32 PM   #95
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Then they'll replace them with motors, like in the Shinkansen...
Perhaps, but the main reason the seats on the shinkansen are motorized is to save time. On the Shinkansen, each train only has 12 minutes turnaround time at Tokyo Station terminal (time from arrival to departure)- 2 minutes for passengers to disembark, 7 minutes for cleaning, and 3 minutes for boarding. Manually rotating those seats would take up too much time. I don't know the typical turnaround times for CRH trains.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 04:57 PM   #96
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Perhaps, but the main reason the seats on the shinkansen are motorized is to save time. On the Shinkansen, each train only has 12 minutes turnaround time at Tokyo Station terminal (time from arrival to departure)- 2 minutes for passengers to disembark, 7 minutes for cleaning, and 3 minutes for boarding. Manually rotating those seats would take up too much time. I don't know the typical turnaround times for CRH trains.
The turnaround time could be as short as 15 minutes on Beijing-Tianjin Line.

There are 10 or 20 cleaners waiting on platform, once a train stops, they get on the trains, rotate seats and other jobs. It usually takes 3 to 5 minutes to rotate all seats, and then they get off and get on another coming train do the same thing.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 07:49 PM   #97
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Well, that's China and manpower for you....Loads of them.....haha
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Old October 4th, 2010, 01:37 AM   #98
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This is perhaps the best looking train in service anywhere. So I suppose we shall be seeing this in California?
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Old October 4th, 2010, 01:55 AM   #99
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This is perhaps the best looking train in service anywhere. So I suppose we shall be seeing this in California?
Have you seen European (especially German) high speed trains?

I think they are better designed with respect to style and function.

Chinese designers have a long way to go before they can catch up with Western designers.

Taste is not something to be cultivated in a matter of years. It will take decades.
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Old October 4th, 2010, 02:27 AM   #100
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Have you seen European (especially German) high speed trains?

I think they are better designed with respect to style and function.

Chinese designers have a long way to go before they can catch up with Western designers.

Taste is not something to be cultivated in a matter of years. It will take decades.
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