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Old June 2nd, 2012, 10:02 PM   #1081
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It's probably unnecessary to post the same news over several different threads, don't you agree?
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Old June 5th, 2012, 01:51 AM   #1082
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Old June 17th, 2012, 12:27 PM   #1083
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Old June 17th, 2012, 12:32 PM   #1084
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Old June 17th, 2012, 03:53 PM   #1085
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Now that is one NICE looking train =)
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Old June 18th, 2012, 07:27 PM   #1086
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Nice looking train indeed.. but i am more interested in crh500. Any pictures of that one ?
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Old June 21st, 2012, 12:47 PM   #1087
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Are the Quasi-High Speed versions of CRH6 going to carry the CRH logo? Since they run slower than official high speed at 180 km/h (112 mph), below 200km/h (125 mph) it doesn't count as high speed. Why would they make a slow version of the train in the first place and where will these slow trains be used? Also will these replace CRH1 trains?


If I drove 112 mph to work everyday I guess it wouldn't be "slow."
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Old June 21st, 2012, 08:35 PM   #1088
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As far as I know according to the pictures here CRH6 as its name implies will carry the CRH brand. It probably will receive D train designations on the schedule, since D means EMU. There were suppose to be two versions of CRH6, one goes to 160km/h and the other 200km/h. I guess that's why they got the CRH name.
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 06:23 PM   #1089
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I don't think he meant physically cannot be restored, only the expression shouldn't be "restored" but rather achieve designed speed.
They can achieve design speed but they went back and realised that the energy, wear, tear and maintenance costs would be lower if they dropped from 380/350 to 334/304.

360 kph is one km every 6 seconds. It takes 15 or 20 km to accelerate and then brake, and you are then 30 seconds from the next station.

As someone from a northern European engineering firm told me, "It's just too fast.".

When they are able to get routine track and train set speeds of 420, 480, 540 kph, or 600kph the stations will have to be much farther apart. They might be able to do this on the existing line with non-stops, but I wonder about the additional wear that such speeds would incur.
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 09:46 PM   #1090
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They can achieve design speed but they went back and realised that the energy, wear, tear and maintenance costs would be lower if they dropped from 380/350 to 334/304.

360 kph is one km every 6 seconds. It takes 15 or 20 km to accelerate and then brake, and you are then 30 seconds from the next station.

As someone from a northern European engineering firm told me, "It's just too fast.".
You're forgetting China is big. Really big.
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 10:08 PM   #1091
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You're forgetting China is big. Really big.
Not to mention that the G trains are the express trains that run with stations at the minimum, say, 100-150 km apart.
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Old June 23rd, 2012, 11:00 PM   #1092
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Not to mention that the G trains are the express trains that run with stations at the minimum, say, 100-150 km apart.
Yeah, or the G train on Beijing-Shanghai that only stops at Nanjing. The distance Beijing-Nanjing is so great, they have time to reach mach 3 if that were technically possible
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Old June 24th, 2012, 07:57 AM   #1093
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As far as I know according to the pictures here CRH6 as its name implies will carry the CRH brand. It probably will receive D train designations on the schedule, since D means EMU. There were suppose to be two versions of CRH6, one goes to 160km/h and the other 200km/h. I guess that's why they got the CRH name.
Thanks for the explanation.

When will the MOR start running CRH380 trains at 380km/h(236 mph)? If I'm not mistaken the highest speed CRH is running is currently 350km/h(217 mph).
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Thanks for the explanation.

When will the MOR start running CRH380 trains at 380km/h(236 mph)? If I'm not mistaken the highest speed CRH is running is currently 350km/h(217 mph).
I believe all 320-350 km/h lines have been limited to 300 km/h about a year ago.
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I believe all 320-350 km/h lines have been limited to 300 km/h about a year ago.
Correct, the rumors out there now is that speed restoration will occur by the second half of this year. Only selected routes will see speed increases though, most likely Beijing-Shanghai and Wuhan-Shenzhen to 350km/h, it's possible that Beijing-Shanghai will go 380km/h but personally I don't think it's gonna happen. Intercity services such as Beijing-Tianjin, Shanghai-Nanjing, and Shanghai-Hangzhou are expected to return to 350km/h too.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 08:51 PM   #1096
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So what's the point of the 380 if they're never going to use it for 380 km/h?
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 07:20 AM   #1097
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Just because they don't run it at 380 km/h a year after opening doesn't mean they can't hike it up when popularity increases and demand goes up a decade down the line. The original Shinkansen lines were only designed with an initial operating speed of 230-ish km/h, but they regularly travel at 300 km/h today. The Beijing-Shanghai line showed that it could support train speeds in excess of 400 km/h. Thus, we can assume that raising the operating speed past 380 isn't impossible in the long run.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 07:29 AM   #1098
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Not never, I just don't think they want to alert the public now. The introduction of CRH380D indicates they are still committed to the 380km/h services.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 02:54 PM   #1099
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Not never, I just don't think they want to alert the public now. The introduction of CRH380D indicates they are still committed to the 380km/h services.
Well, it only really indicated that they were committed to those services when they placed the order, whether or not that means for the future? Probably, but I'm just being a pedant.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 04:38 AM   #1100
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Well, it only really indicated that they were committed to those services when they placed the order, whether or not that means for the future? Probably, but I'm just being a pedant.
True, but if they know 380km/h service is not in sight the MOR can very well order the suspension or termination of CRH380D and CIT500.
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