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Old December 16th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #1681
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They'll need something to feed all the new commuter lines sprawling over the Pearl River Delta.
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Old December 16th, 2013, 09:52 PM   #1682
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They'll need something to feed all the new commuter lines sprawling over the Pearl River Delta.
Most of the commuter lines will only go up to 200km/h with most local trains running on them being CRH6S or CRH6F's clocking only up to 160km/h, so they would not be counted as high speed trains in the order.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:10 AM   #1683
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Most of the commuter lines will only go up to 200km/h with most local trains running on them being CRH6S or CRH6F's clocking only up to 160km/h, so they would not be counted as high speed trains in the order.
"Commuter" lines at 160 and 200km/h really is just awesome. China is doing something great with their railway system.


Any word on what's going on with the CRH/CIT500? Will that train ever run on tracks outside the test shed? It will be a shame if it's only designed to run tests and look pretty.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:39 AM   #1684
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Most of the commuter lines will only go up to 200km/h with most local trains running on them being CRH6S or CRH6F's clocking only up to 160km/h, so they would not be counted as high speed trains in the order.
Are the riders on these high speed commuter lines going to be charged existing commuter rates, or are they going to be hit by a premium? (by definition most commuters are using season tickets/passes, which are discounted- though the infrastructure to support 160km/h+ running is more expensive than standard lines).
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Old December 17th, 2013, 12:35 PM   #1685
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Shanghai Jinshan Rail (Line 22) charges low price like normal commuter rail, RMB 3 ~ 10.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 06:59 PM   #1686
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"Commuter" lines at 160 and 200km/h really is just awesome. China is doing something great with their railway system.


Any word on what's going on with the CRH/CIT500? Will that train ever run on tracks outside the test shed? It will be a shame if it's only designed to run tests and look pretty.
It's a full on test train prototype so it'll be confined to the test track most of the time, since it didn't run any full speed tests on recently opened 350km/h lines I doubt we'll ever see it run on a regular line. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Old December 17th, 2013, 07:21 PM   #1687
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It's a full on test train prototype so it'll be confined to the test track most of the time, since it didn't run any full speed tests on recently opened 350km/h lines I doubt we'll ever see it run on a regular line. I hope I'm wrong though.
I too hope you are wrong on this one but I think it is just a matter of time. China today is not in the rush mode anymore, so we will have to wait a bit more time before this thing comes out to play but I believe it will come out to play eventually.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 05:43 AM   #1688
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500kmph train will change the game again. Imagine traveling Beijing-Shanghai in 2.5 hours. Who will go to airport to travel the same distance while you can get to downtown directly in a shorter time?

But I wonder if CIT500 could run on existing HSR tracks. If not is it cost efficient to build a brand new one given that most major cities are getting HSR connections?
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Old December 18th, 2013, 06:01 AM   #1689
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Who will go to airport to travel the same distance while you can get to downtown directly in a shorter time?
Hongqiao airport is outside downtown, while Hongqiao train station is inside downtown?
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Old December 18th, 2013, 07:31 AM   #1690
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Hongqiao airport is outside downtown, while Hongqiao train station is inside downtown?
At least Beijiing South is closer to town than Beijing Airport. As for Shanghai, not all flight takes off from Hongqiao airport, more of them are still using Pudong Airport which is quite far.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 07:43 AM   #1691
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Two new CRH trains from lcx341

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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:26 AM   #1692
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500kmph train will change the game again. Imagine traveling Beijing-Shanghai in 2.5 hours. Who will go to airport to travel the same distance while you can get to downtown directly in a shorter time?
Remember that average speed is different from top service speed. Chuo Shinkansen is to have top service speed 505 km/h, and the 286 km Shinagawa to Nagoya should take 40 minutes, so average speed just 429 km/h.
At that speed, Beijing-Shanghai should be done in 3,1 hours, not 2,5.
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But I wonder if CIT500 could run on existing HSR tracks. If not is it cost efficient to build a brand new one given that most major cities are getting HSR connections?
Can run on existing tracks at all, can run on existing tracks at high speed, or can run on existing tracks past slower trains?

Is Beijing-Shanghai high speed railway full already, or is there space for more trainsets on the line?
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Old December 18th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #1693
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Two new CRH trains from lcx341
Christ, CNR should be banned from designing their rolling stock and leave the aesthetic work to CSR. They look like chipmunks
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #1694
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Christ, CNR should be banned from designing their rolling stock and leave the aesthetic work to CSR. They look like chipmunks
totally agree
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Old December 19th, 2013, 04:26 AM   #1695
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Christ, CNR should be banned from designing their rolling stock and leave the aesthetic work to CSR. They look like chipmunks
more like snake
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Old December 19th, 2013, 07:54 AM   #1696
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Old December 19th, 2013, 01:47 PM   #1697
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Does China have Maglev Trainsets or developing Maglev Trains ?
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Old December 19th, 2013, 02:00 PM   #1698
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Old December 20th, 2013, 01:01 AM   #1699
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Old December 20th, 2013, 03:41 AM   #1700
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Does China have Maglev Trainsets or developing Maglev Trains ?
It happened that yesterday was the public opening day for the low-medium-speed Maglev designed by CSR.



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