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Old September 30th, 2014, 09:37 PM   #1861
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Thank you very much!
I see it is that the previous order was revised down:
China issues tenders for 232 high-speed trains International Railway Journal

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Take this opportunity to tell you just wrote the wikipedia entry in Spanish over High Speed rail in Chine. Surprisingly it was not written.
It has many data over lines and trains, so I would like you read it and tell me if you see any mistakes.

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Old October 1st, 2014, 01:51 AM   #1862
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Thank you very much!
I see it is that the previous order was revised down:
China issues tenders for 232 high-speed trains International Railway Journal

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Take this opportunity to tell you just wrote the wikipedia entry in Spanish over High Speed rail in Chine. Surprisingly it was not written.
It has many data over lines and trains, so I would like you read it and tell me if you see any mistakes.

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Revised down? The list greenlion send has more than 300 sets. And news article you send mentions "only" 232.
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Old October 1st, 2014, 11:19 AM   #1863
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This is the provisional order was later revised down: from 258 to 232, which are the first part of the greenlion post. The 70 trainsets of the second part of the post are of a later order, as he himself.
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The 10/12/2013 placed an new order for 258 trains with an investment of 5,615 M € (44.3 billion yuan or $ 7.3 billion). 180 to 350 km / h and 78 to 250 km / h.
CSR (25.9 billion yuan) would manufacture 83 to 350 km / h and 78 to 250 km / h. CNR (18.4 billion yuan) for 97 to 350 km / h: Changchun (27) and Tangshan (70).
China orders 258 high-speed trains IRJ
China Trainmakers' High-Speed Rail Total $ 7.3 Billion Orders

This order was downgraded on 08/22/2014, leaving at 57 to 250 km / h and 175 to 350 km / h.
China issues tenders for 232 high-speed trains International Railway Journal


My question is: do we know more about this order ?, how he fit into the latest series ?.

CRH3A CNR 200 km / h 8 cars 5,120 kW 202 meters
CRH3G CNR 250 km / h to 16 cars
CRH2H 250 km / h to 16 cars

Missing many details: train orders for serie, engines, seats, power, length, weight and cost.

Apart 9 CRH380A to MTR Hong Kong were sold.

Previous HST are these (in Spanish, but with pictures):
and the newest, these
Trains supplied according to the wikipedia entry in English are not very updated.
On how many CRH1 250NG already made​​?
Can finished deliver of 70 CRH380D?

A greeting and thanks advance
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Old October 8th, 2014, 06:48 AM   #1864
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Current in operation:

CRH1A: 123 sets (984 cars)
CRH1B: 24 sets (384 cars)
CRH1E: 15 sets (240 cars)

CRH2A: 122 sets: (976 cars)
CRH2ATX: 100 sets (800 cars)
CRH2B: 10 sets (160 cars)
CRH2C: 56 sets (448 cars)
CRH2E: 19 sets (304 cars)

CIT Trains: CRH2-010A, CRH2-061C, CRH2-068C, CRH2-150C

CRH3C: 80 sets (640 cars)

CRH5A: 140 sets (1120 cars)
CRH5ATX: 10 sets (80 cars)

CRH6A: 5 sets (40 cars)
CRH6F: 1 set (8 cars)

CIT trains: CIT001

CRH380A: 40 sets (320 cars)
CRH380ATX: 43 sets (344 cars)
CRH380AL: 96 sets (1536 cars)

CIT trains: CIT400A CRH380A-0203

CRH380B: 35 sets (280 cars)
CRH380BTX: 26 sets (208 cars)
CRH380BK: 41 sets (328 cars)
XRH380BL: 114 sets (1824 cars)

CIT trains: CIT400B

CRH380CL: 25 sets (400 cars)
CRH380D: 3 sets (24 cars)
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Old October 8th, 2014, 10:32 AM   #1865
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It's said this is the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hongkong HSR train: CRH380 EMU, pic taken at CSR


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Old October 9th, 2014, 01:33 AM   #1866
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@greenlion

Thank you very much for the information !!!
Any (many) questions:

24 CRH1B were not 20, less the 46?
15 CRH1E were not 20?
122 CRH2A were not 100, less the 10?
56 CRH2C. 60 less 2 CIT and the 150, prototype of CRH380A?
40 CRH380A be 39 because the CRH380A-001 is as CIT?
3 CRH380D have long pointed 20?
114 CRH380BL why not 115?

CIT, does not match my the CIT380AJ-0203 I think it was the CRH2-150C:
-CIT001 (CRH5-000) basado en el CRH5 (ETR 600 Pendolino de Alstom). 250 km/h. 06/06/2008. CNR
-CRH2-010A (Dr. Bai, de color blanco) basado en el CRH2 (Kawasaki E2). 250 km/h. 03/2007. CSR
-CRH2-061C (fue el prototipo del CRH2C desde el 22/12/2007) (evolución del Kawasaki E2). 350 km/h. CSR
-CRH2-068C (evolución del Kawasaki E2). 350 km/h. 01/2009. CSR
-CIT380AJ-0203 (Dr. Huang, amarillo, fue el CRH2-150C, prototipo del CRH380A desde el 04/2010) (evolución del CRH2 y del Kawasaki E2). 350 km/h. 11/2010. CSR
-CIT400A (CRH380A-001, CRH400A-001) (evolución del CRH2 y del Kawasaki E2 con 7 M 1 R). 380 km/h. 22/02/2011. CSR
-CIT400B (CRH380B-002, CRH400B-001) (evolución del CRH380C y del Velaro C
-CIT500 (Higher Speed Experimental Train). 23/12/2011. CSR

From CRH5ATX are not in service, right?
What ATX means?
Neither I can find last orders.

Thank you very much again
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Old October 9th, 2014, 02:14 AM   #1867
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It's said this is the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hongkong HSR train: CRH380 EMU, pic taken at CSR


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We have seen this like one year ago.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 04:16 AM   #1868
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First set of CRH1-NG (Zefiro 250 NG), the CRH1-169A at BST factory


the CRH1 Family

right to left
CRH1A - nickname metro car
CRH1E - Locust
CRH380D - Cobra
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Old October 9th, 2014, 08:06 AM   #1869
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China CRC announced new rules for CRH train identifier,

for CRH1/2/3/5/6

Will be named as

CRH XX-XXXX

First X means factory number
1 - BST Qingdao
2 - CSR Sifang
3 - CNR Tangshan
5 - CNR Changchun
6 - Intecity trains manufactured by CSR Sufang and CSR Puzhen

Second X means trainset type

A - 200-250 km/h 8 car sets
B - 200-250 km/h 16 car sets
C - 300-350 km/h 8 car sets
D - 300-350 km/h 16 car sets
E - 200-250 km/h 16 car sets with sleeping car
F - 160 km/h 8 car intercity trainsets
G - 200-250 km/h 8 car sets for high mountain and cold type
H - 200-250 km/h 8 car sets for sand wind type
J - CIT Trains

G=GH, H=KFS

for CRH380A/B/C/D

Will be Named as
CRH380XX-XXXX

First X means tecnology platform

A - CSR Sifang
B - CNR Changchun and CNR Tangshan
C - CNR Changchun
D - BST Qingdao

Second X means trainset type
G - for high mountain and cold type
H - for sand wind type
J - CIT Trains
L - 16 car trainsets
M - test train for higher speed level

TX means new destination ordered by CRC, different with original destination
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Old October 9th, 2014, 11:37 AM   #1870
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By completing the only Bombardier HST that is not manufactured in China (how odd that we even use the same photo ):
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En este imagen de Bombardier verás las diferencias:


Están por orden cronológico de derecha a izquierda.
El de la derecha es el CRH1A (5M 3R) y CRH1B (10M 6R). 2007/14. Los 40 primeros son para 220 km/h y el resto (86 A y 20 B) para 250. Basado en el Regina.
El siguiente es el CRH1E (10M 6R). 2009/11. 20 trenes con literas para 250 km/h. Basado en el Zefiro 250.
Luego está el CRH380D (5M 3R). 2013/14. 70 trenes para 380 km/h que no están autorizados a pasar de 300. Basado en el Zefiro 380.
Y el primero es el nuevo CRH1A 250NG (5M 3R). 2014/1?. 60 trenes para 250 km/h. Basado en la familia Zefiro 250 (evolución del CRH1E).

En cuanto a TAVs, en la imagen solo falta el ETR 1000 italiano (todos los demás son chinos, fabricados por Bombardier Sifang Transportation ltd en Qingdao, Norte de China:


El Frecciarossa 1000 está basado en el V300Zefiro, se realiza en cooperación con AnsaldoBreda (Bombardier solo tiene el 30 %, participa más en el ICx alemán: 37 %). 4 M 4 R 2016/17. 50 trenes para 300 km/h, con idea de llegar a 360 km/h en velocidad comercial.
Thank you very much greenlion for the new nomenclature will be studied.

I just read the last order in the IRJ:

"175 high-speed trains with a maximum speed of 350km/h, and 57 trains with a maximum speed of 250km/h

The contract for the 350km/h trains was split into nine packages, with CSR Sifang securing packages to deliver 93 trains, CNR Tangshan 50, and CNR Changchun 32. In addition CSR Sifang was selected to supply the 57 250km/h trains.
CRIC has also issued a tender for another 70 high-speed trains. CNR Changchun and CSR Sifang are the preferred bidders for 10 trains which will have a maximum speed of 250km/h and will be specially adapted to cope with sandstorms. The tender also includes 35 250km/h and 25 350km/h trains which must be suitable for operation in cold climates. CNR Changchun is the preferred bidder for these trains".

"Just" need wedding orders with series and features.
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Old October 11th, 2014, 04:39 PM   #1871
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new orders:
locomotive 7200KW 90
350KM/H train 40
250KM/H train35
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Old October 13th, 2014, 10:47 AM   #1872
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We were trying the issue of technology transfer to China in Mexico HS thread, but I think this is the place.

An article of The Jamestown Foundation: “Chinese High Speed Rail Leapfrog”, development this summer:
http://www.jamestown.org/programs/ch...758&no_cache=1
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Old October 15th, 2014, 12:40 PM   #1873
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In little over a decade China has progressed from a high-speed rail novice to the host of the world's largest high-speed network. Now the country is focussing on foreign markets, where lower costs and efficient construction are making its companies a match for the high-speed specialists of Europe and Japan.



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Old October 17th, 2014, 11:19 AM   #1874
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2013 orders

on April 2013, the CRC orderd 10 sets of CRH5H from CNR Changchun

On August 15th 2013, the China Railway Corporation (CRC) ordered 159 trainsets of High Spped trains includes:

91 sets of CRH2A (CRH2ATX) from CSR Sifang 11,739 million RMB
46 sets of CRH380BG from CNR Changchun 9,430 million RMB
17 sets of CRH380A (CRH380AE27)from CSR Sifang 3,179 million RMB
5 sets of CRH380BK from CNR Tangshan 775 million RMB

On December 4th 2013, CRC ordered 314 trainsets of high Speed Trains includes:

78 sets of CRH2A (CRH2ATX) from CSR Sifang
83 sets of CRH380A (CRH380AE27) from CSR Sifang
27 sets of CRH380BK from CNR Changchun
70 sets of CRH380BK from CNR Tangshan
46 sets of CRH380BG from CNR Changchun
10 sets of CRH5H from CNR Changchun

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Old October 18th, 2014, 01:20 PM   #1875
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Thank you very much for the information

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Old October 20th, 2014, 04:06 AM   #1876
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on April 2013, the CRC orderd 10 sets of CRH5H from CNR Changchun for Lanzhou - Urmqi line

in early operation, there will be 16 sets of CRH2H, 2 sets of CRH380AL, 10 sets of CRH5H operating in the Lanzhou - Urmqi line
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Old October 20th, 2014, 10:33 AM   #1877
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For those not familiar with these two models the H in CRH2H and CRH5H stands for "Han" (cold climate) that are specially designed to operate in extreme weather conditions (cold, sand storms, etc). I assume the CRH380AL will not operate in the winter.
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 05:21 AM   #1878
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Video: CRH3A, CRH3G, MTR380A testing
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzIyNzY2NzMy.html
Video: CRH2H testing
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzk0MjMyOTU2.html
Video: CRH6 official advertisment film
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzYyMjQ5ODYw.html
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Old October 23rd, 2014, 07:01 AM   #1879
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Those videos were amazing. I love seeing videos of these CRH trains. I'm curious if 160 km/h CRH6 trains will still be produced.
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the purchasing of crh380d finally begin,the 70 crh380d order and,20 new crh1
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