225 Cedar St - 26 stories - Page 2

CityView Jim · August 16th, 2012, 02:33 AM

I guess a picture is NOT worth a thousand words as that was the only post since March.

LCIII · August 16th, 2012, 03:20 AM

There are posts about this project coming back to life in several other threads. Assumed everyone was up to speed...

mhays · August 16th, 2012, 03:21 AM

The key is the dumpster, the little fence, the caution tape, and the demo company that's had guys onsite since at least Monday.

Vashon118 · August 16th, 2012, 07:05 AM

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225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (1) by planet_lb, on Flickr

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225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (2) by planet_lb, on Flickr

The fence and the plywood wall went up sometime today (they weren't put up yet when I went by this morning)

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225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (3) by planet_lb, on Flickr

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225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (4) by planet_lb, on Flickr

Rogue Linguist · August 16th, 2012, 09:11 AM

God, doesn't that building look so dated? Good riddance. Maybe the gorgeous sleek tower that replaces it, along with the other nearby developments, will give Rite-Aid a reason to stay open later than 7 o'clock in the evening.

CrazyAboutCities · August 16th, 2012, 03:23 PM

About time! I bet these residents who live in tower right next to this site are not too pleased about losing their views.

cameronrex · August 16th, 2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyAboutCities

About time! I bet these residents who live in tower right next to this site are not too pleased about losing their views.

I toured Seattle Heights when it was selling in 1993/1994. Even then I recognized some views would not be forever. But as was the case with the Cosmopolitan. I'm sure some residents are SHOCKED.

antonba · August 16th, 2012, 06:53 PM

I have put a live webcam pointed at the construction site which you can see here:
http://ustre.am/Nz3i

Will probably only run while I am at work. I will try making a time-lapse too (thanks for the suggestion).

edit:
* I talked to one of the construction workers and he said it will take ~3 days to knock down once they start.
* I noticed they have fenced up the area around RiteAid on Vine street as well! They do own the whole block as far as I know so maybe they'll start work on that project too.
* The backhoe was delivered at 5am Tuesday - was incredibly loud to get it out of the truck it was on and woke me up...

BoulderGrad · August 16th, 2012, 07:04 PM

Post some time lapses if you can!

Rogue Linguist · August 16th, 2012, 08:15 PM

Thanks for the live webcam

RMacherat · August 16th, 2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by antonba

live webcam

It's very nice. Sadly, at my age I tend to forget why I've clicked on something after as long as 30 seconds. Even for a beer.

antonba · August 17th, 2012, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cameronrex

I toured Seattle Heights when it was selling in 1993/1994. Even then I recognized some views would not be forever. But as was the case with the Cosmopolitan. I'm sure some residents are SHOCKED.

Indeed, ridiculous zoning like that makes me want to buy a house out in the suburbs rather than a condo in the city unless the area is built-up with brand new buildings and I know it'll be ok for a while. And I like living in the city.

LCIII · August 18th, 2012, 04:02 AM

What ridiculous zoning? Zoning that allows more than one building per block...I'll never understand that stupidity in a CITY! If you want space don't live in a vibrant, growing urban center! People who don't like that and better yet don't expect it deserve to be built on top of. I love how quickly residents in new construction become entitled to views despite the fact the building they live in undoubtedly blocks someone else's view who lived there first. It's a cycle of stupidity.

bgwah · August 18th, 2012, 04:49 AM

Get a street-facing unit if you're worried about that.

CrazyAboutCities · August 18th, 2012, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCIII

What ridiculous zoning? Zoning that allows more than one building per block...I'll never understand that stupidity in a CITY! If you want space don't live in a vibrant, growing urban center! People who don't like that and better yet don't expect it deserve to be built on top of. I love how quickly residents in new construction become entitled to views despite the fact the building they live in undoubtedly blocks someone else's view who lived there first. It's a cycle of stupidity.

Well said, LCIII.

RMacherat · August 18th, 2012, 08:27 AM

I don't mind so much if people are a little stupid (genetics, after all) when they buy right next to an airport or on a 5th floor downtown facing a nice, juicy parking lot. Just wish we didn't have to HEAR ABOUT IT for the rest of eternity.

(Inspired by LC)

Doomgoggles · August 18th, 2012, 12:28 PM

Why do they even have windows facing the interior of blocks? Some buildings around town you can tell are designed with blank facades for adjoining other buildings or facing alleys.

mhays · August 18th, 2012, 06:44 PM

Because most buildings have many units facing the interiors of blocks. There wouldn't be much density otherwise. Same with offices and anything else.

Further, many people, like me, prefer the interior. It's quieter.

antonba · August 19th, 2012, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCIII

What ridiculous zoning? Zoning that allows more than one building per block...I'll never understand that stupidity in a CITY! If you want space don't live in a vibrant, growing urban center! People who don't like that and better yet don't expect it deserve to be built on top of. I love how quickly residents in new construction become entitled to views despite the fact the building they live in undoubtedly blocks someone else's view who lived there first. It's a cycle of stupidity.

You can definitely have high density and have one building per block - it's simple math - double the height to achieve the same density with half the buildings per block - I'd much rather have a 52-floor tower being the single building in a block rather than two 26-floor towers squished together - it would be much cooler, don't you agree?

Also, I've lived in Germany, Bulgaria, Canada and the SF Bay Area before coming here and I can tell you - I have seen 3x more vibrant cities, with 1/4 the crime which did not achieve this by squeezing towers next to each other.

What you are preaching for has nothing to do with the spacing between towers. Actually, you don't need to even double the heights - you just need to have minimum spacing requirements. And no, they can't be 16 feet.

My opinion of what is happening - Seattle is not becoming a super vibrant world-class city. I was going to say it's going the way of Eastern Block countries, but having lived in one - the tower spacing requirements there were about 100 feet - so Seattle cannot compete with that either.

Oh and btw - this building won't block my view, so I am not actually bitter if that's how it sounds. But as of now, I do believe that your argument is flawed.

cameronrex · August 19th, 2012, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhays

Because most buildings have many units facing the interiors of blocks. There wouldn't be much density otherwise. Same with offices and anything else.

Further, many people, like me, prefer the interior. It's quieter.

So you don't mind looking into a dark alley?

August 16th, 2012, 09:11 AM	#25
Rogue Linguist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,670 Likes (Received): 59	God, doesn't that building look so dated? Good riddance. Maybe the gorgeous sleek tower that replaces it, along with the other nearby developments, will give Rite-Aid a reason to stay open later than 7 o'clock in the evening. __________________ Cot-Caught Merged and Proud

August 16th, 2012, 06:53 PM	#28
antonba Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 33	I have put a live webcam pointed at the construction site which you can see here: http://ustre.am/Nz3i Will probably only run while I am at work. I will try making a time-lapse too (thanks for the suggestion). edit: * I talked to one of the construction workers and he said it will take ~3 days to knock down once they start. * I noticed they have fenced up the area around RiteAid on Vine street as well! They do own the whole block as far as I know so maybe they'll start work on that project too. * The backhoe was delivered at 5am Tuesday - was incredibly loud to get it out of the truck it was on and woke me up... Last edited by antonba; August 16th, 2012 at 08:10 PM. Reason: add information

August 16th, 2012, 07:04 PM	#29
BoulderGrad Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 3,357 Likes (Received): 39	Post some time lapses if you can! __________________ My shrink once said to me: "Maybe life isn't for everyone..."

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August 16th, 2012, 02:33 AM	#21
CityView Jim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,941 Likes (Received): 61	I guess a picture is NOT worth a thousand words as that was the only post since March.

August 16th, 2012, 03:20 AM	#22
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,847 Likes (Received): 59	There are posts about this project coming back to life in several other threads. Assumed everyone was up to speed...

August 16th, 2012, 03:21 AM	#23
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,346 Likes (Received): 115	The key is the dumpster, the little fence, the caution tape, and the demo company that's had guys onsite since at least Monday.

August 16th, 2012, 07:05 AM	#24
Vashon118 Bus & ferry dude Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vashon Island Posts: 704 Likes (Received): 93	image hosted on flickr 225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (1) by planet_lb, on Flickr image hosted on flickr 225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (2) by planet_lb, on Flickr The fence and the plywood wall went up sometime today (they weren't put up yet when I went by this morning) image hosted on flickr 225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (3) by planet_lb, on Flickr image hosted on flickr 225 Cedar 2012-08-15 (4) by planet_lb, on Flickr

August 16th, 2012, 03:23 PM	#26
CrazyAboutCities Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 8,328 Likes (Received): 15	About time! I bet these residents who live in tower right next to this site are not too pleased about losing their views.

August 18th, 2012, 04:02 AM	#33
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,847 Likes (Received): 59	What ridiculous zoning? Zoning that allows more than one building per block...I'll never understand that stupidity in a CITY! If you want space don't live in a vibrant, growing urban center! People who don't like that and better yet don't expect it deserve to be built on top of. I love how quickly residents in new construction become entitled to views despite the fact the building they live in undoubtedly blocks someone else's view who lived there first. It's a cycle of stupidity.

August 18th, 2012, 04:49 AM	#34
bgwah honk!!! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,732 Likes (Received): 76	Get a street-facing unit if you're worried about that.

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RMacherat Buy used books Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,699 Likes (Received): 80	I don't mind so much if people are a little stupid (genetics, after all) when they buy right next to an airport or on a 5th floor downtown facing a nice, juicy parking lot. Just wish we didn't have to HEAR ABOUT IT for the rest of eternity. (Inspired by LC)

August 18th, 2012, 12:28 PM	#37
Doomgoggles Unregistered non-user Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle/Kitsap Posts: 738 Likes (Received): 39	Why do they even have windows facing the interior of blocks? Some buildings around town you can tell are designed with blank facades for adjoining other buildings or facing alleys.

August 18th, 2012, 06:44 PM	#38
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,346 Likes (Received): 115	Because most buildings have many units facing the interiors of blocks. There wouldn't be much density otherwise. Same with offices and anything else. Further, many people, like me, prefer the interior. It's quieter.