225 Cedar St - 26 stories - Page 6

LCIII · September 20th, 2012, 06:53 PM

Thanks for the update.

Looks like they aren't attempting to set any speed records with this one.

D Green · September 21st, 2012, 08:23 PM

Four levels of parking below ground at this rate? Looks like they are taking their time on this one. Maybe to time the completion better with a bigger project?

mhays · September 21st, 2012, 08:38 PM

The other project is way out.

At least three common scenarios could be happening:
1. The did the demolition extra early so any delays wouldn't impact the overall schedule.
2. The earthwork is taking longer because of hazmat.
3. Details like financing, easements (generally for shoring), the construction contract, etc. aren't finalized.

Item 3 can be real hurdles, but usually it's just the stuff that gets worked through, sometimes adding a few weeks. I think they have a shoring permit, which means the biggest hurdle (easy to get but it takes design and time) is out of the way.

Not terribly worried.

antonba · September 25th, 2012, 07:09 AM

Timelapse from today, Sept 24:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaPWe4ty0g

I wonder what the best way to deliver timelapses is...

cameronrex · September 25th, 2012, 07:39 AM

Fabulous! Thanks for that!! Very cool.

alexjonlin · September 25th, 2012, 12:09 PM

Construction does not appear to be a process for the impatient...

D Green · September 26th, 2012, 09:33 PM

Looks like they're going at a good pace now.

antonba · September 27th, 2012, 07:28 AM

Some more serious equipment has arrived today:

Vashon118 · October 25th, 2012, 07:00 AM

image hosted on flickr

225 Cedar 2012-10-10 by planet_lb, on Flickr

image hosted on flickr

225 Cedar 2012-10-10 by planet_lb, on Flickr

antonba · October 29th, 2012, 05:22 PM

And here is an aerial as well:

antonba · November 22nd, 2012, 09:06 PM

Almost a month later:

Rogue Linguist · November 23rd, 2012, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antonba

Almost a month later:

Ooooh this is so yummy.

RMacherat · November 23rd, 2012, 09:20 PM

Oh, I agree - one beautiful Seattle hole in the ground, showing off our great dirt. I was wondering, with the epic deluge we're enjoying right now, what does a job like this do with all that water?

Seasun · November 23rd, 2012, 09:29 PM

Some parts of central Seattle (top of First Hill is one) has great sand that drains really well with almost no effort. Generally speaking though sites have a submersible pump sometimes in a specially drilled well pumping water to a holding tank for settling. After settling and possibly filtration (some sites use http://www.watertectonics.com/projects ) water is discharged to sewer system (storm or sanitary depending on where in town the site is).

mhays · November 23rd, 2012, 11:25 PM

Speaking of the holding tank, it's on the upper right.

Two jobsites have been allowed to close Cedar Street (I think that's Cedar on the right) every day, including the Joseph Arnold. That's kind of odd. Thankfully pedestrians get to use it still. Also, that street has been a glaring hole in the repave program...wonder if they made a deal? I don't know what the repave would cost, but it seems likely that the efficiencies and faster completion for the building project would be worth a developer paying for a repave of one block.

Seasun · November 24th, 2012, 04:29 AM

Another note on stormwater management is that (at least when I was last closely involved on a jobsite) the contractor is charged for every gallon of water leaving the site. We sent in monthly or quarterly reports to King County and got charged accordingly. Fairly casual reporting (almost honor system) but it worked. You can see lots more at this King County site if you're interested.

RMacherat · November 24th, 2012, 08:07 AM

Thanks, Seasun.

Grayproduct · November 25th, 2012, 08:47 PM

Great information Seasun and mhays.

antonba · December 9th, 2012, 02:49 AM

12/7 Update:

mhays · December 9th, 2012, 03:15 AM

Thanks for the updates!

September 21st, 2012, 08:23 PM	#102
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September 26th, 2012, 09:33 PM	#107
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October 29th, 2012, 05:22 PM	#110
antonba Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 33	And here is an aerial as well: Last edited by antonba; December 12th, 2012 at 06:52 AM.

November 22nd, 2012, 09:06 PM	#111
antonba Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 33	Almost a month later: Last edited by antonba; December 12th, 2012 at 06:53 AM.

November 25th, 2012, 08:47 PM	#118
Grayproduct Registered Abuser Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: dawghaus Posts: 441 Likes (Received): 6	Great information Seasun and mhays. __________________ What we've got here is failure to communicate.

September 20th, 2012, 06:53 PM	#101
LCIII Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,851 Likes (Received): 59	Thanks for the update. Looks like they aren't attempting to set any speed records with this one.

September 21st, 2012, 08:38 PM	#103
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,351 Likes (Received): 116	The other project is way out. At least three common scenarios could be happening: 1. The did the demolition extra early so any delays wouldn't impact the overall schedule. 2. The earthwork is taking longer because of hazmat. 3. Details like financing, easements (generally for shoring), the construction contract, etc. aren't finalized. Item 3 can be real hurdles, but usually it's just the stuff that gets worked through, sometimes adding a few weeks. I think they have a shoring permit, which means the biggest hurdle (easy to get but it takes design and time) is out of the way. Not terribly worried.

September 25th, 2012, 07:09 AM	#104
antonba Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 33	Timelapse from today, Sept 24: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaPWe4ty0g I wonder what the best way to deliver timelapses is...

September 25th, 2012, 07:39 AM	#105
cameronrex Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seattle Posts: 462 Likes (Received): 31	Fabulous! Thanks for that!! Very cool.

September 25th, 2012, 12:09 PM	#106
alexjonlin Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,248 Likes (Received): 82	Construction does not appear to be a process for the impatient...

September 27th, 2012, 07:28 AM	#108
antonba Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 33	Some more serious equipment has arrived today:

October 25th, 2012, 07:00 AM	#109
Vashon118 Bus & ferry dude Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vashon Island Posts: 707 Likes (Received): 100	image hosted on flickr 225 Cedar 2012-10-10 by planet_lb, on Flickr image hosted on flickr 225 Cedar 2012-10-10 by planet_lb, on Flickr

November 23rd, 2012, 09:20 PM	#113
RMacherat Buy used books Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,699 Likes (Received): 80	Oh, I agree - one beautiful Seattle hole in the ground, showing off our great dirt. I was wondering, with the epic deluge we're enjoying right now, what does a job like this do with all that water?

November 23rd, 2012, 09:29 PM	#114
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,552 Likes (Received): 42	Some parts of central Seattle (top of First Hill is one) has great sand that drains really well with almost no effort. Generally speaking though sites have a submersible pump sometimes in a specially drilled well pumping water to a holding tank for settling. After settling and possibly filtration (some sites use http://www.watertectonics.com/projects ) water is discharged to sewer system (storm or sanitary depending on where in town the site is).

November 23rd, 2012, 11:25 PM	#115
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,351 Likes (Received): 116	Speaking of the holding tank, it's on the upper right. Two jobsites have been allowed to close Cedar Street (I think that's Cedar on the right) every day, including the Joseph Arnold. That's kind of odd. Thankfully pedestrians get to use it still. Also, that street has been a glaring hole in the repave program...wonder if they made a deal? I don't know what the repave would cost, but it seems likely that the efficiencies and faster completion for the building project would be worth a developer paying for a repave of one block.

November 24th, 2012, 04:29 AM	#116
Seasun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,552 Likes (Received): 42	Another note on stormwater management is that (at least when I was last closely involved on a jobsite) the contractor is charged for every gallon of water leaving the site. We sent in monthly or quarterly reports to King County and got charged accordingly. Fairly casual reporting (almost honor system) but it worked. You can see lots more at this King County site if you're interested.

November 24th, 2012, 08:07 AM	#117
RMacherat Buy used books Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,699 Likes (Received): 80	Thanks, Seasun.

December 9th, 2012, 02:49 AM	#119
antonba Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 53 Likes (Received): 33	12/7 Update:

December 9th, 2012, 03:15 AM	#120
mhays Journeyman Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 8,351 Likes (Received): 116	Thanks for the updates!

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