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Old October 12th, 2004, 07:51 PM   #261
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East Rail Tsim Sha Tsui Extension to Open October 24

The extension moves the terminus of East Rail from the Hung Hom terminal southwest to Tsim Sha Tsui and interchange with the MTR. A journey from the northernmost suburb of Sheung Shui to Tsim Sha Tsui will now take 42 minutes.

Here is a news report from Hong Kong's Cable News (in Cantonese) on October 12th :

http://inews.i-cable.com/mynews/asx/.../kcr2200-b.asx
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Old October 13th, 2004, 01:32 PM   #262
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Anyone knows where I can download similar news clips (about the MTR or anything HK)... Preferably smaller than 10MB? Short clips will do. I love Cantonese... It sounds so cool...
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Old October 13th, 2004, 03:56 PM   #263
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opens in october 2004 or 2005? lol, im not very updated on thsi project
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Old October 13th, 2004, 04:38 PM   #264
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The Tsim Sha Tsui extension is opening Oct. 24 this year.
For short news clips by story, visit :
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Old October 14th, 2004, 01:34 AM   #266
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Copyright 2004 South China Morning Post Ltd.
October 8, 2004

Two more mechanical malfunctions hit a red-faced MTR Corp
Benjamin Wong

The MTR, already under fire from the transport chief for "intolerably frequent" mishaps, was hit by two more mechanical problems yesterday.

The incidents, a power failure and a door that wouldn't close, occurred within half an hour of each other before the morning rush hour. They came a day after a brake seizure sent smoke pouring from a train - the second such problem in 18 days.

The first of yesterday's mishaps occurred at 7.04am, when a power interruption between Diamond Hill and Kowloon Tong halted trains at Wong Tai Sin and Choi Hung stations.

Passengers had to wait in the trains for about four minutes while the MTR fixed the problem. Backup electricity supplies kept the trains lit and ventilated, although the lights were dimmed.

The electricity supplier to Kowloon and New Territories, CLP Power, said there had been no problems with its supplies on the affected section.

In the second incident, at 7.30am, passengers were transferred from a train at Causeway Bay station after one of its doors would not close. The faulty train returned to the MTR depot for inspection. Services were disrupted for a few minutes.

"We looked into the incidents and one important thing was that they did not affect safety," said the MTR Corporation's external affairs manager, Maggie So Man-kit.

The company apologised for its latest problems and vowed to conduct thorough investigations.

The Environment, Transport and Works Bureau said it would study the reports and hoped the MTR would identify the causes of the problems and fix them.

"It was lucky that the incidents happened very early, before the rush hour ... at 8am or 9am, many more people would be affected," a spokeswoman said.

On Wednesday, about 1,000 commuters had to be evacuated from a train on the Tung Chung line at Nam Cheong after a brake failed to release and started smoking.

In a similar incident at Tsing Yi station on September 18, 600 passengers were evacuated when choking fumes poured into one of the cars. The fumes were traced back to a malfunctioning brake system.

That incident prompted criticism by Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works Sarah Liao Sau-tung, who said a repeat would be unacceptable.
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Old October 15th, 2004, 07:12 AM   #267
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Future lines (completion years might change):

MTR:
2005~Disneyland Line
2009~West Island Line & South Island Line
2010~Kwun Tong Line Ext.
2016~North Island Line

KCR:
2004~Tsim Sha Tsui Ext. & Ma On Shan Ext.
2007~Lok Ma Chau Spur
2008~Kowloon Southern Link
2010~Sha Tin - Central Link
2011~Northern Link & Regional Express Line

where is the kwun tong line extension going to whampoa?
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Old October 15th, 2004, 10:22 AM   #268
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where is the kwun tong line extension going to whampoa?
there is no any project for the Kwun Tong Line
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Old October 15th, 2004, 10:34 PM   #269
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Hong Kong's subway and railway operators are also partners in property development on top of their railway stations. In fact, property development is a major profitability driver for both the KCR and MTR.

KCRC adds Tuen Mun to list for 12,971 flats at West Rail stations
Raymond Wang
October 16, 2004

The KCRC will put 12,971 flats on the market after 2008 at five stations on the West Rail and Ma On Shan lines.

The Kowloon-Canton Railway Corp (KCRC) will add a property project above Tuen Mun station on the West Rail to next year's tender, raising the total available projects to five.

The railway company will put 12,971 flats on the market after 2008 at five stations on the West Rail and Ma On Shan lines. Tendering for construction begins next year.

According to the KCRC schedule, tenders open early next year for the construction of 2,528 flats at Wu Kai Sha station on the Ma On Shan line.

That will be followed by tenders to build 10,443 flats at projects at West Rail's Nam Cheong, Yuen Long, Tuen Mun and Tsuen Wan West stations. The largest project, Nam Cheong station, will provide as much as 4,253 flats.

Tuen Mun, Tsuen Wan West and Yuen Long will have 2,200, 1,776 and 2,214 flats respectively.

Two years ago the KCRC and MTR Corp agreed to suspend tenders for property development to help prop up prices, and last October the KCRC agreed not to complete projects before 2008.

MTRC last year also promised not to launch its 21,500-flat ``Dream City'' project at Tseung Kwan O Station before 2008. The subway operator is planning to open construction tenders for its Tseung Kwan O project as early as the end of this year.

If that happens, the first batch of some 2,000 flats will be ready for sale by 2008-09.

In the past 10 to 20 years, 10 per cent of Hong Kong's home supply has come from tenders by the two railway operators, according to Sun Hung Kai Properties vice-chairman Thomas Kwok.

Thirty-three per cent of the supply came from government auctions and tenders and 57 per cent from redevelopment, rezoning and land use conversion by private developers.

"However, we hope to see a more balanced supply situation if the supply ratio from the government and two railway operators can be increased to a combined 50 per cent,'' he said.
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Old October 16th, 2004, 05:25 AM   #270
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TST extension fare dispute
Dennis Chong, Hong Kong Standard
October 16, 2004

Lawmakers said the KCRC was charging too much for tickets to the new Tsim Sha Tsui East station. The extension opens for business a week Sunday.

Chairman Michael Tien said revenue generated by the East Rail extension would only cover operational costs because planned fares have been lowered in response to public demands.

But lawmakers at a Legislative Council meeting on Friday at which the new fares were announced, said the rail operator was ignoring the needs of the city's poorest and accused it of charging too much for some tickets to the new station.

The HK$4.1 billion project that extends the current East Rail line from Hung Hom to Tsim Sha Shui East will start running from a week Sunday.

Commuters will pay an extra HK$1.40 to HK$3.50 if they extend their journey past Hung Hom to the new station, which connects with the MTR Tsim Sha Tsui station via an indoor air-conditioned subway.

A journey from Sheung Shui to Tsim Sha Tsui East will cost HK$12 by octopus card, HK$3.50 more than the trip from Sheung Shui to Hung Hom.

Many lawmakers said that because Tsim Sha Tsui East is in the same district as Hung Hom, commuters should not pay extra.

The journey from Sheung Shui to Mong Kok station, also in the same district, costs the same as a journey from Sheung Shui to Hung Hom.

Lau Chin-shek, lawmaker from Kowloon West constituency, said it was unfair to charge extra for commuters going to Tsim Sha Tsui because the area was in the same district.

But Tien said the extension's time-saving benefit meant that the fare was a lot cheaper than other forms of transport for the same journey.

He said a ride from Sha Tin to Tsim Sha Tsui East would cost HK$7.60 and take 20 minutes. But a bus ride would take twice as long and cost HK$7.

"I don't understand the [lawmakers'] rationale. Of course we have to charge if there is a new station,'' he said.

He added the East Rail would save time and money for travellers and that he believed the fare system was "very competitive''.

But legislator "Long Hair'' Leung Kwok-hung from New Territories East accused rail operators of trying to get money out of passengers with new lines because it could not earn from the property market once that had burst in 1997.

"It takes a long time to plan new lines,'' Leung said. "You have taken it for granted that the stations will be supported by property development. Now the property bubble has burst you turn your target to the customers.''

He accused the KCRC of forgetting it was a public service.

Tien said it had to strike a balance between the needs of customers, competitiveness and cost-effectiveness, and that the lowest fare possible was introduced.

"We only get an annual return of 3 to 4 per cent [of the HK$4.1 billion investment] ... it is very, very low,'' he said. He predicted that passenger flow for the first year would remain low at 100,000 per day.

Selina Chow from the Liberal Party said the architectural design of the new station was "very basic'' and did not match the image of Tsim Sha Tsui as an important tourist centre.
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Old October 16th, 2004, 10:35 AM   #271
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third line down 2010 kwun tong extension????

would the person who posted that plz explain?
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Old October 16th, 2004, 11:06 AM   #272
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Yes. Kwun Tong Line MIGHT be extended to Whampoa or even to Fortress Hill.
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Old October 16th, 2004, 05:19 PM   #273
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Copyright 2004 South China Morning Post Ltd.
October 14, 2004

UK rail expert to investigate MTR failings; Transport chief demands an immediate response after yet another breakdown
Felix Lo

The MTR Corporation yesterday appointed a UK-based rail expert to conduct a thorough review of the company and its services after a series of mishaps affecting its rail network in recent weeks - including a short circuit that immobilised a train yesterday.

One passenger was treated for smoke inhalation after the incident at Quarry Bay station, which forced 1,500 passengers to change trains and delayed services by 19 minutes.

The MTR Corp's chief executive officer, Chow Chung-kong, denied the appointment of Lloyd's Register Rail to conduct the review was due to government pressure. He said this despite an order to the corporation by Secretary for Environment, Transport and Works Sarah Liao Sao-tung that it respond immediately to the government about yesterday's incident.

"The review will start immediately and take about three months to complete," Mr Chow said after apologising to the public at a hastily convened news conference.

"It covers the service performance aspect, facilities and asset management," he said, adding that a report would be submitted to the government.

MTRC head of operations Wilfred Lau Cheuk-man said an electrical fault on the train caused the supply to be switched off at 8.16am. About 1,500 people had to alight. Normal service resumed at 8.35am.

Some passengers said they heard a loud bang and saw smoke billow onto the platform. Mr Lau denied there had been an explosion. He said the noise was caused by the cut to power and that some sparks had generated smoke.

One passenger said there had been no information broadcast through the public address system to keep people informed.

"Seeing firemen going into the paid area and those inside already unfurling the hose, I still heard no broadcasts about what happened. Why did they not broadcast something?" he asked.

There have been a number of problems on MTR trains in the past month, although the company says they are unrelated.

Mr Chow argued that the average number of monthly service delays actually dropped from 26 cases in 2003 to 18 in 2004, stressing that the service had in fact improved.

Phil Gaffney, MTRC managing director in charge of operations and business development, denied the problems had been caused by overloading at peak times.

Ms Liao, welcoming the appointment of the rail expert, said: "I think it is very timely in view of the recent spate of events. It is very important that we do look for professional help to see whether there are any systemic reasons for such incidents and look for solutions."

The chairman of Legco's transport panel, Lau Kong-wah, called on the government to set up an independent committee to investigate. He said incidents involving smoke were intolerable as they frightened passengers.
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Taken on Oct. 16th by mario from a Hong Kong transport forum :






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Tsim Sha Tsui Extension



The East Tsim Sha Tsui Station

East Tsim Sha Tsui Station is a two-level station with an area of about 30,000 square meters, which is around 1.5 times the size of the current Hung Hom Station. The station concourse will be built at underground level with an island platform under it. The Middle Road Children's Playground will be reinstated with beautiful landscaping and new recreational facilities after the completion of the new extension. In addition, the Government has approved the construction of a Public Transport Interchange (PTI) below the Wing On Plaza Garden, which will further provide greater convenience for the public.


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To facilitate interchange between the new East Tsim Sha Tsui Station and the MTR Tsim Sha Tsui Station, the Government has ordered to build a subway link. The subway link will be located below Mody Road, Hanoi Road, Blenheim Avenue, Middle Road and Nathan Road, and there will be underground connections with the developments nearby. The fully air-conditioned pedestrian subways will be equipped with travellators for users' convenience.



Length : 1 km
Travelling Time : 1.5 minutes
Top Speed : 65 km/h
Average Speed : 50 km/h
Frequency : 27 trains an hour (peak) / 15 trains an hour (off-peak)

Source : http://www.kcrc.com.hk/chi/corporate...p?page=TSTStat
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Old October 17th, 2004, 08:15 AM   #276
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third line down 2010 kwun tong extension????

would the person who posted that plz explain?
and information for related questions.

The Kwun Tong line Extension is an extension of the Kwun Tong line from Yau Ma Tei Station to the south which will contain 2 new stations (Ho Man Tin and Whampoa) The line is an alternative to the Underground Light rail which connects Whampoa with Hung Hom Station and it is currently under consideration of the Government. Originally, in the MTR's bid for the Shatin-Central Link, The MTR also offered to extend the KTL (Kwun Tong Line) to Whampoa and make an interchange station between the two lines at a new station called Ho Man Tin. This only happens if the MTR wins the bid. But, the KCRC won the Contract for the Shatin-Central Link. After winning the bid, KCRC immediately announced that they will also incorporate the Underground Light rail (As mentioned above) which includes 2 stations (Whampoa and Man Yue Street). Around Half a year later, the MTR submitted a proposal to the Government of HK that they are interested in building a extension of the KTL to Whampoa. The reason behind this is because the MTR knows that for the future plan of railway developments, there will be a need for a 5th harbour crossing for rail between the Kowloon penninsula and Fortress Hill of Hong Kong Island and with the KCRC threatening to compete with the monopoly that the MTR has over the Victoria Harbour, there is a need to first place a railway line near the coast which later when there is a need for the 5th harbour crossing to be built, the MTR will have to bid with the KCRC for this project.
The government looked at the two options and decided that this shall be considered as a seperate project. So, the government invited the 2 railway companies to submit a bid for the project. Currently, because of a possible merger between the MTRC and the KCRC, the Government has halted the bidding process of this line/extension because it will interfere with the merger of the two compaines. So, more details of railway construction in the Whampoa area will be known after the result of the merger of the two railway companies.

Hope this will make people understand more about the current situation of Hong Kong's Railway network.

P.S. The reason why I replied so late is because I was trying to find the PDF file on the Environment, Transportation & Works Bureau's website, but apparently, because the bidding is paused, the link to the file has been deleted.
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Old October 17th, 2004, 08:45 AM   #277
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well im from hong kong myself i just dount live there i go to school in the US and going to hong kong during the summer and sometimes the winter

for people how have been to hong kong do you like MTR or KCR more?
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Old October 17th, 2004, 09:31 AM   #278
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Will there still be a merger of the KCRC & the MTRC? Have there been any new developments?

Why are Hong Kong's trains powered by overhead pantographs? Aren't these more vulnerable to being damaged by the strong winds of passing typhoons? as well as being an eyesore?
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How long will the subway link be? Why didn't the KCR just build its Station just that bit closer to MTR's Station? Are there buildings in the way? After all the new Station does seem a bit too far...
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