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Old March 19th, 2011, 06:54 PM   #3081
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Tuen Mun to Tsuen Wan rail bid gains speed
15 March 2011
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A decades-old plan to build a second railway connecting Tuen Mun and Tsuen Wan is gathering speed.

District representatives released a feasibility study yesterday and said residents needed a faster rail link in the area northwest of Kowloon.

The proposed 18-kilometre railway would run along the coast between Tsuen Wan West and Tuen Mun, passing through Sham Tseng, Tsing Lung Tau and Sam Shing. It would be a more direct link than the existing 35.4-kilometre West Rail Line, which goes north to Yuen Long before getting to Tuen Mun.

The district councils also suggested the railway be extended to a new station in western Tuen Mun.

A feasibility study commissioned by the two district councils estimated the proposed railway would carry 237,600 passengers daily in 2021, and that the whole journey would take about 20 minutes. The HK$600,000 study was made by Ho Wang SPB.

Most passengers would be taking medium-to-long trips and would need to change at Tsuen Wan West for the West Rail Line, the report said.

Costs and other details of the construction were not known yet, but Joseph Wong Chung-chuen, executive director of the company, estimated tickets on the proposed line would cost less than the West Rail Line's charge of HK$11 one-way for adults from Tsuen Wan West to Tuen Mun.

"Ticket prices on the MTR are usually based on the length of the journey. The proposed railway is shorter than the West Rail Line by 20 to 30 per cent, so prices will also be cheaper," Wong said.

Travel time between the two areas would also be shortened by at least 15 minutes, he said. "Commuting time for residents in Tuen Mun West will further be reduced, because the rail network will become more accessible to them," he said.

Wong said the cheaper costs and quicker commuting time would encourage residents to look for jobs outside the immediate area and encourage tourists to visit Tuen Mun.

It could also ease the passenger load on the West Rail Line, which was likely to increase with more residential projects developing along it, he said.

The railway could even connect with a cross-border railway, such as the Hong Kong-Shenzhen Western Express Line, and the Hong Kong-Zhuhai-Macau bridge, Wong said, although further studies would be needed.

The two district councils proposed the railway to the government in 2009. It is now being considered under the Transport and Housing Bureau's updated railway development strategy.

Tuen Mun District Council chairman Lau Wong-fat said the two councils sent the report to Chief Executive Donald Tsang Yam-kuen yesterday and hoped the railway could be built as soon as possible.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 07:33 PM   #3082
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After MTRC got a $2.8 billion of profit, 32% hike, from local rail operation last year, we get a 2.3% fare raise in June! Bravo.

Time to fill up that Octopus Card.


MTR fares set to rise
25-03-2011

The Mass Transit Railway Corporation has announced it will raise fares by 2.3 percent from June. Passengers will have to pay 10 to 20 cents more for each journey.
The increase has been calculated under a fare adjustment mechanism linked to rises in the consumer price index and wage indices.

A spokesman for the Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities, Richard Tsoi, opposed the move, saying it would add to the already high cost of living. He said it could not be justified financially because the Corporation posted a big profit last year.

http://www.rthk.org.hk/rthk/news/eng...0325&56&743641
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Old March 25th, 2011, 06:01 AM   #3083
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What measures can the Hong Kong government take to stop fare hikes by a monopolist company, even though the company is doing well financially and can't really justify the fare hike?

Just wondering what kind of sticks they have to hit with.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 06:16 AM   #3084
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What measures can the Hong Kong government take to stop fare hikes by a monopolist company, even though the company is doing well financially and can't really justify the fare hike?

Just wondering what kind of sticks they have to hit with.
Well, they're closing the fare gap with buses. I still think with the hike the city fares are still cheaper than before the merger though.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 06:17 PM   #3085
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Old March 25th, 2011, 08:26 PM   #3086
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After MTRC got a $2.8 billion of profit, 32% hike, from local rail operation last year, we get a 2.3% fare raise in June! Bravo.

Time to fill up that Octopus Card.


MTR fares set to rise
25-03-2011

The Mass Transit Railway Corporation has announced it will raise fares by 2.3 percent from June. Passengers will have to pay 10 to 20 cents more for each journey.
The increase has been calculated under a fare adjustment mechanism linked to rises in the consumer price index and wage indices.

A spokesman for the Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities, Richard Tsoi, opposed the move, saying it would add to the already high cost of living. He said it could not be justified financially because the Corporation posted a big profit last year.

http://www.rthk.org.hk/rthk/news/eng...0325&56&743641
Is that a $2.8 billion profit or revenue from rail operations?
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Old March 25th, 2011, 08:55 PM   #3087
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Is that a $2.8 billion profit or revenue from rail operations?
Yes, $2.8 billion profit from rail operation alone, I quoted it from the article in post 2342.
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Old March 25th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #3088
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No excuses for them really then...
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Old March 26th, 2011, 06:20 AM   #3089
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Old March 26th, 2011, 11:13 AM   #3090
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When was the last MTR price rise (ie: since when were the current ptices in effect)? I've got a hunch if the fares were in Renminbi... they'd have actually fallen?
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Old March 26th, 2011, 12:38 PM   #3091
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When was the last MTR price rise (ie: since when were the current ptices in effect)? I've got a hunch if the fares were in Renminbi... they'd have actually fallen?
There was a fare hike last year, although fares did drop following the KCR merger.
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Old March 26th, 2011, 11:07 PM   #3092
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There was a fare hike last year, although fares did drop following the KCR merger.
Hmmm. So with the Renminbi going from 1:1 with the HK Dollar (Jan 2007) to 0.88 CNY = 1.00 HKD where it plateaued for most of the 2008-current Financial Crisis, at least till mid-2010 where it started appreciating again and is now at ~0.84 CNY = 1.00 HKD... Yup, MTR fares have actually gotten cheaper if fares were denominated in Renminbi...
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Old March 27th, 2011, 12:57 AM   #3093
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Hmmm. So with the Renminbi going from 1:1 with the HK Dollar (Jan 2007) to 0.88 CNY = 1.00 HKD where it plateaued for most of the 2008-current Financial Crisis, at least till mid-2010 where it started appreciating again and is now at ~0.84 CNY = 1.00 HKD... Yup, MTR fares have actually gotten cheaper if fares were denominated in Renminbi...
I don't think the fare has a whole lot to do with the raise on CNY.
The raise CNY does contribute the inflation locally in HK in food, and other import, but I just can't think of how it can directly change the operation of MTRC besides the company may have to raise the salary to catch the inflation.
Don't forget MTRC is doing a lot of consultant works in China, as well as operation a few lines in the mainland, which mean MTRC is making money in CNY at the same time as the currency raise its value over HKD.

The fall of USD in the last few years has probably done a lot more harm to the MTRC with import of tracks, parts and other materials from overseas which are probably paid in USD, which the HKD pegs into.

Bottomline, I think the company is just looking for more profit as allowed by law at this point.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 07:53 AM   #3094
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Inflation is a big part of the reason this is such a sensitive issue here. HK is an expensive place to live, and local salaries are lower than you'd expect, considering the cost of real estate. The price of housing has gone crazy in the last couple of years. Food is getting noticeably more expensive, too. What this means is that the people most affected will be the ones on the lower end of the income scale, the ones who have longer commutes because they can only afford to live farther away from the employment centers. In light of the large profit the MTRC has reported, the proposed fare increase is very hard for a lot of people to accept.
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Old March 27th, 2011, 08:26 AM   #3095
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Hmmm. So with the Renminbi going from 1:1 with the HK Dollar (Jan 2007) to 0.88 CNY = 1.00 HKD where it plateaued for most of the 2008-current Financial Crisis, at least till mid-2010 where it started appreciating again and is now at ~0.84 CNY = 1.00 HKD... Yup, MTR fares have actually gotten cheaper if fares were denominated in Renminbi...
We should look at fare revenue, which has been profitable these past few years. This is denominated in HKD. Given CNY's appreciation, all that consulting work in China is getting more lucrative and profitable as the earnings are repatriated back to HK. Wouldn't that mean they should be able to pressure to increase fares?
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Old March 30th, 2011, 11:34 AM   #3096
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Mickey magic halted in tracks
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A breakdown on the Disneyland Resort Line hit MTR services for nearly three hours yesterday.
It was the first disruption on the line since it opened five years ago.

More than 2,000 people were affected after one of the Mickey Mouse-themed trains broke down just before 8am at Sunny Bay station.

Many of those on the problem train were Disneyland employees on their way to work.

The MTR arranged shuttle buses for taking passengers between Sunny Bay and Disneyland until full service was resumed. Thirty buses made 53 trips during the three hours, carrying 2,170 passengers. Forty-three of the trips were to Disneyland.

While bus services went into action, an engine towed the problem train to a siding away from the main line where it awaited inspection to determine what brought it to a halt.

Partial train services resumed at 9.30am, with the frequency between trains nine minutes instead of the usual five.

It was only at 11am that the Disney trains were running to their usual schedule.

MTR executives pledged to pull out all the stops to prevent another disruption on the line, which is a dedicated link and therefore carries only tourists, local visitors and workers.

But a Disneyland spokeswoman said overall operations had not been affected, and the park opened as usual at 10.30am.
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Japanese solution to assaults rejected in HK
7 April 2011
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When the Mass Transit Railway (MTR) Corporation officially declined the Legislative Council's (LegCo) proposal to installing women-only carriages in January 2011, there was almost no objection - not among women.

"Implementing women-only carriages does not mean an end to lewd conduct in general," said Amy Yeung, executive secretary of the Association for the Advancement of Feminism, adding that education and enforcement of stricter law is much more effective.

"I am much more prone to the idea of creating an environment in public transportation where women learn to protect themselves," said Linda Wong of the Association Concerning Sexual Violence against Women, referring to special training of MTR staff members about how to deal with urgent cases of sexual assault, and posting signs reminding passengers of paying attention to potential assaults.

"I think that the idea of women-only carriage signals a presumption that women are on the weak side," she said.

Stephen Robert Nagy, assistant professor of Department of Japanese Studies at the Chinese University of Hong Kong, examined the idea.

"It's definitely an initiative to deal with lewd conduct, and women in Japan generally appreciate it," he said, referring to the women-only carriages in Japan, which were first adopted in 2001.

"It's 100 percent effective in the women-only carriages," said Nagy, adding that there was no case of sexual assault reported in these carriages. Nor has there been any situation in which male passengers have proven unwilling to move out of the women-only carriages when mistakenly enter.

However, women-only carriages are not on every train line of every city in Japan. According to Nagy, whether the installment is necessary varies from different districts, factoring in the different population sizes and how prosperous the district is. Besides, some women-only carriages are effective only during rush hours.

In November 2010, China Daily reported that an online and telephone poll showed 81 percent of the cases of indecent assaults took place on the subway.

The MTR Corporation however disputed the findings, arguing that crimes involving sexual assaults only made up 1.3 percent of the total number of crimes in Hong Kong in 2010.

Online public opinions in Hong Kong almost converged on disapproving women-only carriages. Many questioned associated problems, such as bringing inconvenience to the male travelers during peak hours.

The same concern also exists in Tokyo, where the subway sees an average of eight million passengers every day, the second highest in the world, according to reports. By comparison, the MTR in Hong Kong carries about four million passengers a day, according to the company.

Skeptics also contended that sexual assaults on public transportation is not as severe as it is in Japan.

"In Japan, there had been prominent cases when men were conducting sexual assaults in the public area in various sophisticated ways which caught the media and people's attention," said Nagy, explaining the situation in Japan before the installment.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 06:30 PM   #3098
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HK to review MTR fare mechanism

HONG KONG, Apr. 15 (Xinhua) -- The review on the MTR (Mass Transit Railway) Corporation's fare-adjustment mechanism will be conducted next year, and the government will encourage the corporation to provide fare concession to passengers, the Secretary for Transport and Housing Department in Hong Kong Eva Cheng said Friday.

Speaking to legislators, Cheng said the rate of increase under the fare-adjustment mechanism this year is 2.3 percent and the new fares will take effect in June.

It is estimated the fare increase will lift the Composite Consumer Price Index by 0.018 of a percentage point this year and another 0.015 of a percentage point next year.

Following the set procedures, MTR Corporation (MTRC) must provide the government with two independent third-party certificates certifying the fare adjustments are in compliance with the mechanism and formally notify the Legislative Council and the Transport Advisory Committee three weeks prior to implementation of the new fares.

The fare-adjustment mechanism was implemented in 2009 and fares were first increased under it last year.
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HK to receive 1st mainland-made subway train
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CHANGCHUN - Hong Kong's metro system will receive its first train from a Chinese mainland manufacturer Thursday, according to a source with the manufacturer.

The 8-car train was designed and developed by Changchun Railway Vehicles Co, Ltd, a subsidiary of the China CNR Corporation Limited, said the source.

The lightweight train is capable of speeds of up to 80 kilometers per hour. It is made out of stainless steel and has a service life of 40 years, 10 years longer than that of subway trains currently being used by metro systems in the mainland, according to the Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., Ltd..

The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (HKSAR) signed a procurement agreement with the China CNR Corporation Limited in December 2008. In accordance with the agreement, Changchun Railway Vehicles Co, Ltd is tasked to develop, manufacture and provide 10 trains to the MTR Corporation of Hong Kong before 2012.

The cooperation between Changchun Railway Vehicles Co, Ltd and the HKSAR is an indication that mass transit vehicle manufacturers in the Chinese mainland are ready to penetrate the Hong Kong market, which has been dominated by suppliers from the United Kingdom, France and Spain.
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Old April 29th, 2011, 05:04 AM   #3100
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As usual, the Bombardier JV is conveniently omitted. Still looking forward to the actual product; I heard it's not exactly cheap even though it's manufactured in the mainland.

Edit: Just saw loading photos from Liaoning on another forum. It looks quite good from the outside.
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