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Old April 17th, 2012, 02:30 AM   #3181
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Here's a list of all of MTR's China Metro Consulting: http://www.mtr.com.hk/eng/consultancy/clientlist.html

Notice Shanghai is on the list.
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Old April 17th, 2012, 04:43 AM   #3182
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Unmanned trains on track for new line
The Standard
Tuesday, April 17, 2012

The Island South Line (East) will be served by unmanned trains when completed in 2015, the MTR Corp said.

The rail operator revealed it has ordered 10 French-designed trains for the seven-kilometer line, terminating at Admiralty - an interchange station for the Island and Tsuen Wan lines.

MTR chief architect Wilfred Yeung Sze-wai said yesterday South Island commuters may look forward to a reliable and flexible service with the introduction of the Fully Automatic Operation system.

He said the system is a well-proven and mature technology commonly adopted in cities with top-notch rail systems, such as Paris, Singapore and Seoul.

Staff may take manual control of the trains in times of emergencies, allowing for the remote reset and system recovery via the central control center.

In addition, Yeung said the new system will lead to a more flexible deployment of trains, which can be mobilized remotely to build up service frequency to meet any surge in passenger demand.

This will free up more train service staff to offer assistance to passengers.

Yeung soothed public concerns that an unmanned operating system is unsafe, saying a successful precedent has already been set by the smooth running of the Disneyland Resort Line, which employs an automatic control system.

Security will also be enhanced on the new line, with the installation of four CCTV cameras in each compartment.

Sensors embedded in the air-conditioning system will alert control staff when smoke is detected.

Each three-car train will have a streamlined design and comes equipped with a slew of innovative features such as underseat theatrical lighting and suspended flooring to reduce noise from train equipment.

The HK$12.4 billion line will connect the southern end of Hong Kong Island, which is not serviced at present by any rail transport.

The southern terminus will be at South Horizons on Ap Lei Chau, passing through stops at Lei Tung, Wong Chuk Hang, and Ocean Park before terminating at Admiralty.

The company estimates it will take commuters 10 minutes to travel from South Horizons to the urban district.
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Old April 17th, 2012, 08:26 AM   #3183
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Unmanned trains on track for new line
The Standard
Tuesday, April 17, 2012

The Island South Line (East) will be served by unmanned trains when completed in 2015, the MTR Corp said.

The rail operator revealed it has ordered 10 French-designed trains for the seven-kilometer line, terminating at Admiralty - an interchange station for the Island and Tsuen Wan lines.

MTR chief architect Wilfred Yeung Sze-wai said yesterday South Island commuters may look forward to a reliable and flexible service with the introduction of the Fully Automatic Operation system.

He said the system is a well-proven and mature technology commonly adopted in cities with top-notch rail systems, such as Paris, Singapore and Seoul.

Staff may take manual control of the trains in times of emergencies, allowing for the remote reset and system recovery via the central control center.

In addition, Yeung said the new system will lead to a more flexible deployment of trains, which can be mobilized remotely to build up service frequency to meet any surge in passenger demand.

This will free up more train service staff to offer assistance to passengers.

Yeung soothed public concerns that an unmanned operating system is unsafe, saying a successful precedent has already been set by the smooth running of the Disneyland Resort Line, which employs an automatic control system.

Security will also be enhanced on the new line, with the installation of four CCTV cameras in each compartment.

Sensors embedded in the air-conditioning system will alert control staff when smoke is detected.

Each three-car train will have a streamlined design and comes equipped with a slew of innovative features such as underseat theatrical lighting and suspended flooring to reduce noise from train equipment.

The HK$12.4 billion line will connect the southern end of Hong Kong Island, which is not serviced at present by any rail transport.

The southern terminus will be at South Horizons on Ap Lei Chau, passing through stops at Lei Tung, Wong Chuk Hang, and Ocean Park before terminating at Admiralty.

The company estimates it will take commuters 10 minutes to travel from South Horizons to the urban district.
French design? Which companies are associated with this? Last news we had was that the three car sets were an extension to the order from CRC Bombardier.
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Old April 17th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #3184
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French design? Which companies are associated with this? Last news we had was that the three car sets were an extension to the order from CRC Bombardier.
The Chinese-language media in HK is reporting the vehicles will be made in China but the signalling system is from France's Alstom.

http://the-sun.on.cc/cnt/news/20120417/00407_075.html
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Old April 17th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #3185
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Will they be steel-on-steel, or will they have rubber tyres the French like so much?
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Will they be steel-on-steel, or will they have rubber tyres the French like so much?
conventional steel track.... if it was going to be a rubber tire metro, it would have been ALL over the news and web by now.
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Old April 23rd, 2012, 03:56 PM   #3187
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Old April 29th, 2012, 07:52 AM   #3188
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LCQ3: MTR fares and the Fare Adjustment Mechanism
Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Government Press Release

Following is a question by the Hon Chan Hak-kan and a reply by the Secretary for Transport and Housing, Ms Eva Cheng, in the Legislative Council today (April 25):

Question:

The MTR Corporation Limited ("MTRCL") recorded a surplus of $14.7 billion last year, but it announced in March this year that it will increase MTR fares by as high as 5.4% in June this year in accordance with the Fare Adjustment Mechanism ("FAM") which provides for both upward and downward adjustments, and it will at the same time provide some fare concessions. This is the third consecutive year that MTR fares are being increased and the rate of increase this year is the highest since the implementation of FAM in 2009, resulting in an increase in passengers’ travel expenses. Yet, MTR incidents occur frequently; according to the figures provided to this Council by the Transport and Housing Bureau, 839 railway related incidents which have to be reported to the Electrical and Mechanical Services Department in accordance with the Mass Transit Railway Regulations occurred last year, representing an increase of 9% over the figure of 2010. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council:

(a) whether it knows the fare concessions that MTRCL offered to passengers in the past three years, and the respective numbers of passengers who benefitted from such concessions as well as the expenditures incurred, and set out the figures in table form;

(b) of the current review procedures of FAM; whether it will review FAM earlier and consider including in FAM the authority of the Government to vet and approve fare adjustments to prevent MTRCL from effectuating fare increases automatically according to FAM; if it will, of the details; if not, the reasons for that; and

(c) whether it will in the future consider linking the rate of increase in MTR fares to the number of the aforesaid railway related incidents as a penalty system, and to monitor the performance of MTR; if it will, of the details; if not, the reasons for that, and how the Government will ensure that such incidents of MTR will not occur persistently, and timely and quality services will be provided?

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President,

Since the rail merger in December 2007, fare adjustment of the MTR Corporation Limited ("MTRCL") has been subject to an objective and transparent Fare Adjustment Mechanism ("FAM"). The FAM, formulated after extensive discussion in the community and by the Legislative Council ("LegCo"), has replaced the pre-merger fare autonomy of the MTRCL.

Under the current FAM, the fare adjustment rate for the prevailing year is determined in accordance with a direct-drive formula linked to the year-on-year percentage changes in both the Composite Consumer Price Index ("CCPI") and the Nominal Wage Index (Transportation Section) ("Wage Index") in December of the previous year, as well as a productivity factor.

The MTRCL reduced its fares immediately after the merger. Such reductions included (1) a minimum of 10% decrease in Octopus fares for long-haul trips; (2) a minimum of 5% decrease in Octopus fares for mid-haul trips; and (3) a commitment to freeze its fares in the first two years following the merger until June 30, 2009. The FAM was not introduced until 2009 after the merger and the first fare increase was implemented in 2010.

The Census and Statistics Department published the CCPI and Wage Index for December 2011 on January 20 and March 26, 2012 respectively. With reference to these indices, the computation results of the FAM indicate an adjustment rate of +5.4% in the overall MTR fares for 2012.

According to the FAM procedures laid down in the Operating Agreement ("OA") signed between the Government and the MTRCL in August 2007, the MTRCL is required to provide the Government with two certificates issued by an independent third party to certify that its fare adjustment is in compliance with the FAM. It is also required to formally notify the Panel on Transport of the LegCo and the Transport Advisory Committee three weeks prior to the implementation of the new fares. As the OA is a legally binding document, the Government will act in accordance with the mechanism and ensure that the MTRCL complies with the relevant accounting and notification requirements.

Railway is the backbone of the public transport system in Hong Kong and forms the core of our transport strategy. The MTR network currently covers the residential areas occupied by 70% of our population. With an average daily patronage of over 4 million passenger trips, the MTR has become the most popular mode of public transport in Hong Kong.

Given the relatively high inflation rate at present and thus a heavy financial burden on the local community, the Government shares the view of the public that the MTRCL should, apart from considering its commercial operations, give due regard to its corporate social responsibility. While providing safe and efficient railway services, the MTRCL should also strive to help the public reduce fare expenses. Therefore, the Government has urged the MTRCL to take into account the overall macro-economic environment and implement more and various effective fare concessions so as to address the needs of passengers and alleviate their burden of travelling expenses.

My reply to the three parts of the question is as follows:

(a) Over the past three years, major fare promotions and concessions provided by the MTRCL include fare concession for children; Student Travel Scheme; fare concession and $2 fare promotion for the elderly; fare concession for Persons with Disabilities; Monthly Pass and Day Pass; free interchange offer and Light Rail Personalised Octopus Frequent User Bonus Scheme; "Ride $100 Get $5 MTR Shop Coupon" promotion scheme; and "Ride $100 Get 1 Free" promotion scheme; etc. MTRCL's major fare promotions and concessions, as well as the number of passengers benefitted and the amount involved, are at Annex.

(b) Regarding the review of the FAM for the MTR fares, the OA stipulates that the Government or the MTRCL may request a review on the FAM in the fifth year after the merger or every fifth year thereafter. We shall initiate the review in the second half of 2012 and discuss with the MTRCL, with a view to completing the exercise by late 2012 or early 2013.

At the time of the rail merger, the establishment of the FAM and the elements contained in its formula were thoroughly discussed and considered by the community and the LegCo. The CCPI adopted by the current mechanism reflects to a certain extent the macro-economic environment of Hong Kong whereas the Wage Index reflects the staff cost of the MTRCL. As such, it may be said that the economy and wage precede the activation of any fare adjustment.

It will be five years in December 2012 following the rail merger. To better prepare for the FAM review to be carried out in the second half of the year, we have engaged a consultant to conduct a study. The consultant will examine the relevant issues objectively and comprehensively. The study will include whether and how new elements in addition to the data linked with the economic performance, wage index and productivity factor should be introduced in the FAM so as to reflect the operating costs, profit level, efficiency of operation and service performance of the MTRCL as well as the affordability of general public, etc., thereby improving the mechanism. Recommendations made therein will serve as our reference in the upcoming review.

As to whether approving procedures should be introduced to the mechanism, we are open-minded at this stage. Of course, we expect the future mechanism would be a transparent and simple one based on objective indicators. The consultancy study is still underway. We shall take into consideration the findings of the consultancy study upon its completion, as well as consult and listen to the views of various sectors.

(c) The MTRCL has a grave responsibility of providing safe railway services to the community. The Government has all along required the MTRCL to offer safe, reliable and efficient railway services at all times. The Electrical and Mechanical Services Department ("EMSD") is responsible for monitoring the safety of railway systems. It will conduct post-incident investigations to ensure that the MTRCL will take appropriate follow-up and improvement measures. The EMSD will also conduct regular inspections to check whether the MTRCL has carried out railway system maintenance works as scheduled to ensure railway safety.

Under the Mass Transit Railway Regulations, the MTRCL has to notify the EMSD of any incident that occurred at any part of the entire railway premises which has a direct bearing on the safe operation of the railway. The figures mentioned by the Honourable Chan are the number of railway incidents along various MTR railway lines that were caused by railway equipment failure, staff behaviour, passenger/public behaviour as well as other external factors and that were notifiable to the EMSD in accordance with the Regulations. The EMSD stated that, among the railway incidents in 2011, over 90% were caused by passenger/public behaviour and other external factors such as passengers being nipped by train doors when dashing into the compartments, trespassing and fallen trees under tropical typhoons, etc. Less than 10% were caused by railway equipment failure and staff behaviour. Subsequent to an analysis of the incidents concerned, the EMSD found no systemic safety concerns in the MTR services.

In our opinion, the most important task after the occurrence of a railway incident is to identify the contributory cause and resume normal train services as soon as possible so that the impact to the public can be minimised.

As for how to apportion blame for the incidents or setting up a demerit system, we are also open-minded. We should however bear in mind that any suggestion should not unnecessarily incur additional pressure on frontline railway staff, so that it would not bring about any adverse impact on railway safety checks and emergency repairs in their attempt to avoid points being deducted when carrying out repair works within tight timeframes.

Separately, given the lengthy operational hours and high utilisation of the territory-wide railway network, with hundreds of thousands of systems and components operating non-stop, it is practically impossible to achieve a scenario of "zero incident". Notwithstanding, we have all along demanded the MTRCL to give safety the highest priority, as under no circumstances should safety be compromised. As to how MTRCL's service performance may be assessed comprehensively and objectively, and linked to the FAM, it is a complicated issue which will be examined in the upcoming review.

Annex : http://gia.info.gov.hk/general/20120...0277_92919.pdf
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Old May 4th, 2012, 05:57 AM   #3189
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MTR sorry as 900 take a walk
The Standard
Friday, May 04, 2012





MTR chairman Raymond Ch'ien Kuo-fung apologized to around 900 passengers who were forced to walk 100 meters along the track when a train broke down yesterday.

A Hung Hom-bound train stopped at a Mei Foo station platform on the West Rail Line at 8am because of a fault in the train's power system.

It meant an incoming train to Mei Foo station was stuck in a tunnel, forcing the 900 passengers to walk to a nearby platform with the help of MTR staff and firemen.

"I apologize to the affected passengers," Ch'ien said, adding that MTR staff handled the incident "very well." The incident, he said, was "unavoidable" and the important thing is to learn from it to prevent a similar incident from happening again.

The West Rail service was disrupted for nearly two hours, causing long delays.

MTR staff checked the system and found that the Hung Hom-bound train had a power failure. They told commuters about the disruption through the public address system.

Trains between Tuen Mun and Tsuen Wan West, and between Nam Cheong and Hung Hom, were reduced to 10-minute intervals since the stalled train interfered with both routes. The trains generally run every three to four minutes at peak hours.

Due to the incident, thousands of passengers were stranded at stations on the West Rail Line.

At Kam Sheung Road station, the platform was crowded with people going to work. Most of the commuters criticized the MTR, saying it took too long to alert the public.

Federation of Trade Unions lawmaker Wong Kwok-hing was one of the stranded passengers. Wong boarded a train at Siu Hong station and it reached Tsuen Wan West at 9.30am. As a result, Wong failed to arrive at a Legislative Council meeting on time.

Some commuters criticized the MTR for failing to arrange feeder buses. It provided buses for passengers only between Nam Cheong and Tsuen Wan West.

The Transport Bureau expressed concern about the incident and urged the operator to submit a report in three days.
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 07:13 PM   #3190
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Relief on MTR fare rises sought
The Standard
Thursday, May 17, 2012

Passengers may be granted MTR fare concessions following next month's increases.

Secretary for Transport and Housing Eva Cheng Yu-wah said MTR Corp is "actively working" on various concession and reward proposals.

"I have urged the MTRC to return some of the additional revenue arising from the fare adjustment to passengers through various effective means, so as to substantively address the needs of various groups of passengers, and alleviate their burden of traveling expenses," Cheng told the Legislative Council yesterday.

She was responding to lawmaker Lau Kwong-wah's concerns that long-distance commuters will face hardships.

The rail operator will generate an additional HK$600 million a year in revenues with the 5.4percent fare hikes.

An MTRC spokesman said the corporation will likely announce concessions and rewards at the end May.

"It has to wait until a meeting by the board of directors to confirm details of fare concessions schemes."

The move comes after the MTRC sparked anger over its decision to hike fares despite posting a hefty net profit of HK$14.7 billion last year.

Fares rose by 2.05percent in 2010 and 2.2percent last year.

Responding to public pressure, the company launched a "Ride $100 Get 1 Free" promotion last year in which passengers got one free ride for spending at least HK$100 within a week.

However, many criticized the scheme as barely benefiting the public, since not many passengers who live in urban areas spend more than HK$100 a week.

A HK$2 promotional fare on certain days for seniors has also been extended until August 31.

Legislator Andrew Cheng Kar-foo said the company may only alleviate hardship by withdrawing the hikes.

But Cheng called the promised concessions "better than nothing."

Transport concern groups believe the company should review the fare adjustment mechanism.
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Travelers taken for ride in MTR turnstile test
The Standard
Monday, June 04, 2012

More than 100 MTR passengers who used a faulty turnstile at the Nam Cheong station were overcharged.

An MTR Corp spokeswoman said staff had been testing software on Thursday in preparation for a controversial fares hike later this month and miscommunication resulted in some passengers being overcharged between 10 and 70 HK cents.

The total amount involved was around HK$80.

The spokeswoman said yesterday those using Octopus cards would get refunds.

The toll machine at Exit B of the station malfunctioned from 1pm to 7pm.

The company discovered the overcharging after passengers reported the discrepancy to the station.

The turnstile was closed and a notice posted outside to inform passengers about what had happened.

When asked why the company did not immediately inform the media about the breakdown, the spokeswoman said it "did not want to confuse other passengers."

Those affected may claim their refunds from the MTR at a time convenient to them, the spokeswoman said.

This is not the first case of MTR passengers being overcharged.

In 2007, gates at Kowloon Tong failed to give the proper discounts for passengers transferring from the Kwun Tong Line to the former Kowloon Tong Canton Railway East Rail and Ma On Shan lines. Of 250 journeys made through the wide gates at Kowloon Tong, 91 complaints of overcharging were lodged before they were closed.

In 2009, human error caused about 2,000 Octopus card holders to be overcharged by a total of HK$5,000 while traveling on the MTR West Rail.

MTR Corp found that its automatic fare collection system overcharged some passengers 20 HK cents to HK$2, instead of allowing them to enjoy a cash rebate promotion.

Richard Tsoi Yiu-cheong, a spokesman for the Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities, said it is "unacceptable" for the company to conduct testing during operating hours.

In addition, it should have immediately informed the media when the overcharging was discovered so that those involved could be better informed.

"Many people may not have realized they were being overcharged," Tsoi said.

"In addition, many people may not remember which turnstile they used."

Tsoi said he will write to the government demanding it monitor the operation of the MTR, not only over unnecessary delays but also for overcharging.

"There should be mechanisms on how the MTR should deal with such cases," Tsoi said.

Penalty systems should also be applied in cases of overcharging, he added.

MTR fares will be increased from June 17.
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In regards to those two photos, I really really hate exterior-hung doors, it's so /ugly/ and completely ruins the lines of the vehicle. Look at the front of the SP1900 compared to the sides of it, the front looks like it's from the future, and the sides like theyre from some crappy old subway
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Externally hung means more internal space for the passenger but at the cost of higher ambient sound.

The flush mounted plug door type also requires more moving parts, meaning doors can be prone to failure more often.
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MTR Octopus fares fury as tickets take cheaper route
The Standard
Monday, June 18, 2012

MTR Corp has been urged to cancel its fares hike, which came into effect yesterday, as passengers claim it is cheaper to travel on some routes by using a single-journey ticket rather than an Octopus card.

Fares on all journeys were raised between 10 HK cents and HK$1.40.

However, it was found that Octopus fares - especially on the Light Rail and West Rail systems - cost more than single-journey tickets.

For example, the Octopus fare between Tin Wing and San Wai on the Light Rail costs HK$5.40 while the single-journey fare is HK$4.

On the West Rail, Octopus card users pay HK$5.10 between Long Ping and Kam Sheung Road while the single- journey fare is HK$5.

Tin Shui Wai resident Leung Ka-yui said she did not realize that single-journey tickets were cheaper as most people use their Octopus cards because of the convenience.

"The MTR intends to cheat us," said Leung, who is in her 20s.

Leung takes the Light Rail from Tin Shui Wai to Ginza once or twice a week. Even though she was told a single-journey ticket will cost 10 HK cents less, she prefers to use her card.

"You need to have plenty of coins to buy a ticket. That's too inconvenient! I'm used to my Octopus card."

MTR assistant public relations manager Lilian Yeung said the disparity in ticket prices is down to different methods used to calculate fares.

Stations along the Light Rail fall into six zones. The single-journey fare depends on the zone in which the passenger travels while Octopus fares are calculated by the number of stations.

Another reason is that this year the MTR has not adjusted single-journey fares that are below HK$7.

Meanwhile, the first concessionary measure, "Ride 10 Get 1 Free," promotion comes into effect today.

Passengers may get one free single journey after making 10 trips and paying by their Octopus card during weekdays.

Ellis Ng, a maintenance worker in his 40s, said it is impossible for him to benefit from the promotion as he only rides the MTR three to four times a month.

Cheung Ka-ho, a 21-year-old, plans to travel less because of the fares increase.

From July 28, children, between three and 11 years old, may travel for free on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays.
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I was about to ask for a map of the West Island Line, there was one posted on Wikipedia. Are the other lines below also under construction?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Island_Line
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