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Old October 21st, 2004, 03:42 AM   #321
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I've seen in movies how MTR trains can be very very packed...but never thought that even suburban services can be that packed...no wonder trains in HK have like 8 or more carriages...

Whats the first class fare like in comparison with normal fares? The first class section is always not that crowded?

''Your attention please, as the train ahead has not aparted,
we shall remain here for a short while, we appologize for any inconvinence''
- This announcement sounds very nice. The chinese one in it sounds very soothing, not sharp as with all the other chinese announcements...

does singapores mrt have similar announcements?
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Old October 21st, 2004, 03:43 AM   #322
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I've seen in movies how MTR trains can be very very packed...but never thought that even suburban services can be that packed...no wonder trains in HK have like 8 or more carriages...

Whats the first class fare like in comparison with normal fares? The first class section is always not that crowded?

''Your attention please, as the train ahead has not aparted,
we shall remain here for a short while, we appologize for any inconvinence''
- This announcement sounds very nice. The chinese one in it sounds very soothing, not sharp as with all the other chinese announcements...

KCR has 12 carriages.
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Old October 21st, 2004, 05:30 AM   #323
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KCR used to do something like 9 compartments on weekdays, 12 on weekends...now it's always 12.
West Rail uses 7, MTR urban lines use 8, TCL/AEL use 7, I think.
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Old October 21st, 2004, 06:39 AM   #324
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TCL is using 8 cars la!
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Old October 21st, 2004, 12:02 PM   #325
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KCR has 12 carriages.
And are all 12 carriages heavily utilised? It must be crazy having so many people on the same train and disembarking from the train at major interchanges at the same time.

Are all platforms on the KCR & MTR expandable to 12 car lengths? What is the maximum platform size? Can it ever be expanded in the future?

Do they give announcements like telling you if the train arriving next is a 8 car train or a 12 car train?

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Old October 21st, 2004, 12:14 PM   #326
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does singapores mrt have similar announcements?
Hong Kong's MTR & KCR have many automated in train announcements that are not found in Singapore's MRT.

For one, they do not announce which sides of the train are the doors going to open. But its quite understandable as usually at most stations the doors open on the same side.

Secondly, they do not announce that the train will not depart because of railway regulations (I dont even know what that is) or because the next train at the opposite platform at the interchange station is arriving. If it is waiting for the train at the opposite platform to arrive, it just waits, no announcements.

Thirdly, they do not announce what time the next train will arrive at the platform.

Lastly, the announcements are in english only except for safety announcements such as (please stand back from the yellow line).

Like HK however, we have those typical ''Please mind the gap'' and ''No eating'' and the typical basic set of announcements though.

A MPEG (with sound) video clip of one of the announcements is available on the ''Singapore's MRT & LRT'' thread.

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Old October 21st, 2004, 12:25 PM   #327
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That KCR train car with only 1 door visible. Is that a first class car? Why is there only 1 door visible?
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Old October 21st, 2004, 08:45 PM   #328
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[Train Video] KCR East Tsim Sha Tsui Station

This film documents the Trial Day of the new East Tsim Sha Tsui KCR East Rail Station with the interior of the station plus a round trip on two different train sets, Metro-Cammell England and Kinki Sharyo.

To download the clip, please feel free to right click and save file on any virtual images below or at this link:
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Old October 21st, 2004, 09:17 PM   #329
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Does anyone have any pics of what the two different trainsets look like?
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 05:03 AM   #330
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First class has 4 doors 2 on each side but they only use on of the doors on the platform side because the capacity in the first class car is way less the the normal ones
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 08:20 PM   #331
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I was watching this TVB news video clip and the authorities were like telling passengers not to open the windows just because you see smoke.

Why?

And why do the trains come with windows that can be opened? I thought most new subway systems/lines have done away with windows that can be opened since the train car is now all air conditioned?

Thanks.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 08:30 PM   #332
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If there is smoke coming out of the train, say from the bottom, then the tunnel will be full of smoke and opening the windows will be much worse. It is highly unlikely that a fire can start inside the train, since the materials used to build the features are usually fire-resistant. The chairs are made of metal, for example. Fires from faulty brakes or an electrical malfunction are more likely.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 08:35 PM   #333
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Oh okay. Then why are windows installed? Thanks.
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Old October 22nd, 2004, 08:53 PM   #334
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Probably for ventilation in case the train's electric systems break down.

Oh, and anyone know why the PSD retrofit project uses Kaba doors, but all brand-new stations (and North Point's new platform) use some other kind of door?

The Kaba doors look much better...
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Old October 23rd, 2004, 08:08 PM   #335
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Kowloon Station is on the Tung Chung and Airport Express lines. Located next to Sorrento and Harbourside, development on top of and around this station will include the new Union Square skyscraper.

From a Hong Kong transport forum :









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Old October 23rd, 2004, 09:41 PM   #336
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New Rolling Stock Delivery
On the afternoon of March 22, 2001. The first batch of new KCRC East Rail rolling stocks built by Itochu-Kinki-Kawasaki Consortium arrived Hung Hom Station Pier. Member Mr Ken Lau captured the moment of arrival.



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Ticket machines at the new East Tsim Sha Tsui station.
By matthew from a Hong Kong transport forum :





Notice the Ma On Shan line is already displayed in red. That line should open later this year.
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MTR's Consultancy Services

Introduction
Apart from building and operating railways in Hong Kong, MTR has actively developed consultancy businesses in many cities around the world by making use of its expertise in the planning, construction, operation, maintenance and up-grading of railways plus property development and non-fare revenue activities. During 2002, MTR has undertaken consultancy services in a number of locations, including China, Thailand, Singapore, Australia, India and United Kingdom, etc.

Shanghai Projects
In 2002, MTR established a joint venture company Shanghai Hong Kong Metro Construction Management Co. Ltd. (SHKMCM) to undertake project management of railway construction projects in Shanghai.

MTR was appointed as an Owner’s Advisor for the construction of the Yang Pu Line 8(M8). The M8 project comprises 24 underground stations with a total route length of 23 km. Total project cost is RMB14.5 billion. MTR is providing advisory services to the project owner, Shentong Holdings.



SHKMCM has been appointed as Owner’s Representative to project manage, on behalf of the owner, the design and construction of Shen Song Line 9(R4). The R4 project is a 31 km metro line comprising 12 stations. It is split into 12 civil/building and 23 E&M contracts. The total project cost is RMB10 billion and is expected to be completed by the end of 2005.

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October 19, 2004 Government Press Release
Transport experts back TST Extension fares

The Transport Advisory Committee has endorsed Tsim Sha Tsui Extension fares, saying the KCRC has taken into consideration passengers' acceptability, market competitiveness and the project cost in setting the price.

Committee Chairman Teresa Cheng said: "We believe the KCRC has achieved a reasonable balance between the interests of the corporation and passengers."

Members welcomed the KCRC's initiative to arrange intermodal discounts with other public transport operators. They said the discount for East Rail passengers interchanging with the MTR at Tsim Sha Tsui Station will be an effective measure to enhance the attractiveness of the extension, which will officially open October 24.

Meanwhile, the committee also welcomed the proposal to introduce the Probationary Driving Licence Scheme to novice private car and light goods vehicle drivers.

"The scheme could serve as extended training for inexperience drivers, allowing them to accumulate sufficient on-road driving experience. At the same time, the 'P' plate will remind other drivers to be more cautious of and patient with novice drivers," Ms Cheng said.
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Why are there two different machines featured? Is it that one dispenses Octopus cards and the other magnetic cards?

I noticed that the Route Map on the Ticket Machine allows you to buy tickets to Stations on the East Rail only. What if a passenger wants to buy a ticket to lets say Central. How does he go about doing it?

How does one transfer from the KCR lines to MTR lines at an interchange station? Do you have to exit from the KCR fare gate and re-enter from the MTR fare gates?

Last question. On race days, are there two different train services, one to Racecourse Station and the other to that other station or does the KCR ply only Racecourse Station only...

Thanks.....

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