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Old March 4th, 2014, 01:33 AM   #3501
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Having all these harbour crossings is just ridiculous.
The point is people want to get from Central to the Tsim Tsa Tsui area.

After the East Rail Line crosses the harbour, the first stop is Hung Hom, in the middle of nowhere. Sure it relieves passengers going from Central to ERL via Mong Kok and Diamond Hill, but that's not where most people want to go.

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Old March 4th, 2014, 02:35 AM   #3502
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After the East Rail Line crosses the harbour, the first stop is Hung Hom, in the middle of nowhere.
In most places something like that looks like this would be called the center of the universe. Hung Hom Sta. is under the low white buildings in the center.


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What is better is short running trains on the Tsuen Wan Line to Lai King and Choi Hung from Central during peak times.
All your doing is interlining and short turning trains. It really doesn't add any capacity. All urban lines are almost maxed out at 2min per train so short turning will only starve off the outer sections with poorer frequencies.

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In addition to this, the future East West line needs to be routed:
West Rail Line <> existing East Rail line to Tai Wai <> existing Ma On Shan line

And the future North South line needs to be routed:
Existing East Rail line from Lo Wu to Tai Wai, future Tai Wai to Hung Hom via Diamond Hill and Kai Tak, then the cross harbour link.

Why did I say this? Because the future CRH link will be at West Kowloon. People will be using the Tung Chung Line or Tsuen Wan line to get there. This already relieves Tsuen Wan line for cross border traffic. The North South axis will then gain a new catchment area of East Kowloon, and it will get rid of customers who use the Tsuen Wan line to cross the harbour get to the Kwun Tong line and shift them there.
The rearrangement between the N-S line and E-W line will add an unnecessary jog towards diamond hill or a forced transfer for N-S trips. The new catchment area is already covered by the EWL and the cross platform interchange at hung hom will shift Kwun Tong line passengers to the EWL.

All and All, most the new one seat rides you propose between lines already have cross platform interchanges and will just jam up the network or introduce unnecessary jogs and detours.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 03:04 AM   #3503
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Far be it for an outsider like myself to weigh in, but Hung Hom did feel more isolated due to the road network in the area compared to other stations in Hong Kong, though. It feels far more cut off from the city than any other MTR station. Perhaps that is what cal_t meant?
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Old March 4th, 2014, 04:39 AM   #3504
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Far be it for an outsider like myself to weigh in, but Hung Hom did feel more isolated due to the road network in the area compared to other stations in Hong Kong, though. It feels far more cut off from the city than any other MTR station. Perhaps that is what cal_t meant?
Agree with that. Even though it is geographically close, the tunnel buses get clogged up in a lot of traffic so it is a lengthy commute into Central.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 11:22 AM   #3505
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Hung Hom is certainly not as busy as an activity hub vs Tsim Tsa Tsui.

As for the line arrangements, I don't think people will flow in the direction that they anticipated. Traffic will always be North-South orientated.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 03:54 PM   #3506
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All and All, most the new one seat rides you propose between lines already have cross platform interchanges and will just jam up the network or introduce unnecessary jogs and detours.
Just a matter of fact that Hung Hom will not be a cross platform interchange anymore after the opening of EWL and NSL. EWL is at the upper (ground) level and NSL is at the lower level.
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Far be it for an outsider like myself to weigh in, but Hung Hom did feel more isolated due to the road network in the area compared to other stations in Hong Kong, though. It feels far more cut off from the city than any other MTR station. Perhaps that is what cal_t meant?
Hung Hom is next to the Cross-harbour Tunnel and it is far from isolated. It is a major transfer point for passengers between trains and cross-harbour buses.
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Old March 4th, 2014, 04:17 PM   #3508
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Hung Hom is next to the Cross-harbour Tunnel and it is far from isolated. It is a major transfer point for passengers between trains and cross-harbour buses.
Yes, fantastic for buses and transfers, but I felt as someone walking it felt like an island in a sea of roads.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 07:05 PM   #3509
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Yes, fantastic for buses and transfers, but I felt as someone walking it felt like an island in a sea of roads.
Yes - that is Whampoa, which is not walkable to the tunnel, and no longer has a Star Ferry route.
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Old March 5th, 2014, 07:57 PM   #3510
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If I may comment.....

I wouldn't go as far as say that Hung Hom is a deserted place. I think that it has its own thing going on.......so there's nothing wrong with that.

Besides, I think they're building some kind of transport access gateway or something whatever it's called (which would link it with Whampoa Garden)
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Old March 13th, 2014, 06:51 PM   #3511
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MTR earnings go off track
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Wednesday, March 12, 2014

MTR Corp (0066) may offer discounts to passengers seriously delayed due to accidents after earnings took a tumble last year.

"Passengers will also be able to share directly in the profits of the company through a profit-related fare concession scheme," said chief executive Jay Walder yesterday while unveiling the rail firm's 2013 results yesterday.

Core net profit last year fell 10.6 percent from 2012 to HK$8.6 billion amid a sharp a drop in earnings from property development.

MTRC said the concessions will be given in the form of a current scheme in which a 10 percent discount is offered for travelers' second trip on the same day. The current scheme expires on March 31.

Also, medium-distance travelers will enjoy discounts on multiple tickets from the next quarter. Morning concessions are under consideration as well.

Around HK$2 billion was set aside for concessions every year, MTRC said.

Fares rose 2.7 percent from 2012.

Commenting on the rush-hour service, Walder expects capacity could be increased by 10 percent as new lines will commence services and signaling systems of six old lines are upgraded by 2018 at the earliest.

Net profit, which includes property revaluation that were above market estimates, slipped 2.6 percent to HK$13.04 billion from 2012. A final dividend of 67 HK cents was declared.

Core profit from property development tumbled 57 percent to HK$1.16 billion, while that from other recurrent businesses rose 7.6 percent to HK$7.44 billion.

This came as property sales last year consisted mostly of inventory units at The Riverpark near Che Kung Temple Station. No projects were tendered.

Property director David Tang Chi-fai said he is disappointed that the site near Tin Wing Stop failed to be secure any bids twice. Looking forward, Tang expects to put the Tai Wai Station site and the Lohas Park phase four for tender this year. Together they can contain more than 4,400 units.

Earnings from the total 576 flats at The Austin sold last November will be booked later this year.

Overall revenue reached HK$38.71 billion, up 8.3 percent from 2012.

Railway revenue rose 4.4 percent to HK$15.17 billion with local patronage rising to a new record of 1.82 billion.

Revenue from the rail firm's station commercial business jumped 25 percent to HK$4.59 billion while that of rental business reached HK$3.78 billion with almost 100 percent occupancy rate amid a 16 percent rental hike at its shopping malls.
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Old March 14th, 2014, 03:17 PM   #3512
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MTR’s new tunnelling machine is made in HK
14 March 2014
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A machine to bore tunnels that is being assembled in Hong Kong will soon be used to build part of the new railway linking Sha Tin and Central.

The machine, named Mu Guiying after a legendary heroine from the Song dynasty, is the third to be assembled in the city. Other railway construction has been handled by machinery built elsewhere.

Similar machines were also assembled in Hong Kong more than a decade ago in the construction of tunnels in Lok Ma Chau and under the harbour between Quarry Bay and Yau Tong.

The tunnel-boring machine, which the MTR Corporation said was costing between HK$100 million and HK$150 million, is one of seven that will be used to build the Sha Tin-Central link.

The first phase of the new railway line – between Tai Wai and Hung Hom – will open in 2018. The line will later cross the harbour, linking Hung Hom to Admiralty, by 2020. Four of the machines will be used in the Kowloon section of the link, and three on Hong Kong Island.

Dr Philco Wong, the MTR’s general manager of the Sha Tin-Central link, said the project was using the most tunnel-boring machines in Hong Kong’s railway history.

Assembling the machine, which measures 100 metres in length and 7.4 metres in diameter, takes eight months, Wong said. The assembly of the Mu Guiying is already in its final stage.

It will be transferred to a construction site in Kai Tak next month, where it will drill a 750-metre tunnel to Diamond Hill and another in the opposite direction. The process would take more than a year, he said.

The other machines will bore tunnels between Ma Chai Hang Playground in Wong Tai Sin and Diamond Hill; To Kwa Wan and Ho Man Tin; the Police Officers’ Club in Causeway Bay and the Convention and Exhibition Centre in Wan Chai, and Convention Avenue and Admiralty.

Wong said that assembling the tunnel-boring machine in Hong Kong helped the MTR create more jobs and training opportunities for local workers. About half of the 20 people on the team were locals, he said.

It would be easier for the MTR to monitor the building process and quality of the machine as well, Wong said.

The 17-kilometre line is intended to ease congestion and will cost about HK$80 billion.
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Old March 17th, 2014, 08:21 PM   #3513
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Old March 19th, 2014, 05:01 PM   #3514
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MTR steps up service to ease crowding
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Train services will be increased by 329 journeys a week from next month to reduce waiting times and ease overcrowding.

Many passengers have complained of overcrowding in MTR stations, particularly with a surge in mainland visitors.

The additional frequencies will be implemented in two phases from April 7 and in August, mostly in evening peak but also non-peak periods. On the Island Line, 18 more trips will be added a day from 5-7pm Mondays to Fridays.

Sixteen additional trips will be seen on the Kwun Tong line from Mondays to Fridays and the number will be increased to 17 additional trips on Sundays.

On the Tsuen Wan Line, 32 more trips will be added on Sundays and Mondays to Thursdays.

East Rail will see 50 more frequencies a week, including 36 more trips between 9am and 5pm on Sundays.

West Rail will have 16 more frequencies on Fridays and Saturdays from 7pm to 11.20pm, which would shorten the wait by 10 to 60 seconds.

Chief executive Jay Walder said: "These latest enhancements will bring to a total of 1,600 extra weekly trains we have added since our listening/ responding program in 2012."

Operations director Jacob Kam Chak-pui said an extra 300 workers will be recruited to assist passengers on platforms and encourage them to move inside the carriages. "It would allow other passengers to board more easily and reduce delays caused by doors having to be reopened and re- closed, which could have a ripple effect in causing delays down the line," he said.

No decision has been made on whether to remove seats to create more space.

"Removing a six-people seat could make room only for three more people to stand. The help for increasing the capacity is limited," Kam said.

He said it would be impossible to remove all the seats and that the multi-use spaces in the carriages were built for people to use wheelchairs and baby strollers, not for taking more passengers.

A new arrangement for queuing will be introduced on Platform 2 of Kowloon Tong station on the Kwun Tong Line at the end of next month to help ensure the on-time departure of trains.
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MTR directors may have pay cut for delays, Anthony Cheung warns
23 March 2014
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The MTR Corporation is considering linking its directors' pay to the company's performance after a string of rail system failures and delays.

Secretary for Transport and Housing Professor Anthony Cheung Bing-leung said yesterday the government was concerned about the recent incidents and an MTR committee was looking into the feasibility of the idea.

The MTR will be stung with a HK$27.5 million fine for 147 disruptions last year. That will be applied this year, meaning that under the fare adjustment mechanism, passengers will save 10 per cent on every second trip.

Fare increases will also be finalised this week, when the government releases its transport salary index. Adjustments are calculated annually according to inflation and wage changes in the transport sector. It is expected passengers will pay an extra 3.5 per cent this year.

"The MTR board is exploring whether it's possible to reflect major disruptions on the railway network in directors' salaries," Cheung said. "It's unfortunate that there have been more frequent disruptions recently."

Cheung added that part of MTR directors' salaries was already linked to service performance, but said disruptions could also be included as a factor.

"Both the MTR and the government think it is important that management staff are held responsible," he said.

Cheung said the MTR and the Electrical and Mechanical Services Department were working on reviews of the railway's overhead cable system after defective electrical insulators caused three hours of delays on the East Rail Line last month. They are investigating whether the problem is systemic.

Those disruptions came 10 days after an electrical fault on the same line forced its partial closure, causing nearly four hours of chaos. In January, a light-rail train broke down in Yuen Long after a mechanical failure, shutting down eight stations for almost three hours. In December, a power failure halted services on the Tseung Kwan O Line for almost five hours.

The MTR raised fares 2.7 per cent last year. Cheung said the fare adjustment mechanism struck the right balance between recognising changes in operating costs and wages, and affordability for passengers.

The MTR recorded HK$8.6 billion of underlying profit last year. Under a new profit-sharing scheme it will give out HK$125 million in second-trip concessions. The formula was adjusted to lessen the impact of fare rises, and a profit-sharing system was introduced in which the railway has to offer certain concessions when its profit exceeds HK$5 billion.

Cheung also said the government had received a consultant's report on developing more railway lines, which it would release as soon as possible. He said he was concerned about overcrowding, and would ask the MTR to add more trains on lines that had the signalling capacity.
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The East Rail line fare between Fanling/Sheung Shui station and Lok Ma Chau/Lo Wu stations is abnormally high given the distance between them.
This why many people in Fanling/Sheung Shui are now using cross-boundary buses to get to Shenzhen, as those towns have direct coach services to Sha Tau Kok and Man Kam To border checkpoints. It is also not far from those towns to the Huanggang checkpoint (a simple switch from a public bus to the 'Huang Bus' at the San Tin public transport interchange).

P.S. Man Kam To is in the same district as Lo Wu railway station, Huanggang is in the same district as Lok Ma Chau railway station. Sha Tau Kok is in the far north-eastern corner of Hong Kong, right by the Starling Inlet and a gateway to Kat O (otherwise known as Crooked Island) for those who hold a boundary restricted zone permit.
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Commuters face 3.6pc rise in train fares
The Standard
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MTR fares will rise 3.6 percent in June - almost one percentage point more than last year's hike.

It will be the second increase under the new fare adjustment mechanism adopted last April. The MTR proposed a 3.2 percent rise last March before it was adjusted to 2.7 percent and took effect in June.

The MTR Corp will announce the exact fare adjustment for each journey in late May. The new fares do not need Executive Council approval.

Under a 3.6 percent rise, journeys from Mong Kok to Admiralty will cost 40 HK cents more, rising from HK$10.70 to HK$11.10. Tai Po to Central will cost 60 cents more, to HK$16.90.

The mechanism uses a formula that combines the consumer price index, transport wage rises and productivity factor. The mechanism is supposed to result in fares rising less than originally proposed.

The MTR's announcement immediately drew criticism from lawmakers and community representatives, who demanded that the rail operator freeze fares amid a series of service disruptions.

Neo Democrats lawmaker Gary Fan Kwok-wai, who is vice chairman of the Legislative Council transport panel, said: "It is completely unacceptable for the MTR to raise fares again, particularly as there has been a spate of technical glitches disrupting train services and affecting passengers seriously in the past few months.

"The MTR should freeze the fare hike and it must allocate more financial resources to improve its network system and enhance maintenance services."

Federation of Trade Unions lawmaker Bill Tang Ka-piu said commuters are disappointed with the disruptions and the operator should not raise fares.

Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities spokesman Richard Tsoi Yiu-cheong said: "The latest fare increase will only further increase the financial burden on commuters even though the MTR has made huge profits each year."

Transport secretary Anthony Cheung Bing-leung said the level of fare increase is lower than inflations and wage rises in the transportation sector.

An MTR spokeswoman said the company is dedicated to providing safe and reliable services and examines each service disruption incident seriously to find out its cause and prevent similar incidents.

The revamped mechanism has a service performance arrangement under which disruptions lasting 31 minutes or more, except for those beyond the operator's control, result in fines and the amount is used for fare concessions.

A profit-sharing mechanism, based on the MTR's underlying business profits each year also allocates a share of profits to provide fare concessions to passengers.
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Choi Hung station:


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