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Old February 10th, 2017, 04:55 AM   #4181
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In a first for Hong Kong police and MTR, anti-terrorism officers patrol city’s railway network
Deployment made before July visit by Chinese leaders and in response to global attacks targeting public transport
January 29, 2017

The Hong Kong Police Force’s anti-terrorism officers have been deployed to patrol the city’s railway network for the first time to beef up security in response to global terrorist attacks and ahead of a visit by Chinese leaders, the Post has learned.

The revelation of upgraded security comes as the 29,000-strong force soon holds its largest ever anti-terror drill to ensure readiness for any eventuality during the 20th anniversary of Hong Kong’s return to Chinese sovereignty in July, police insiders said.

Local media have reported President Xi Jinping is expected to visit the city to mark the event and administer the oath of office to the new chief executive.

More : http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/l...orism-officers
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Old February 10th, 2017, 02:49 PM   #4182
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At least 11 injured in blaze as man attempts to ‘throw Molotov cocktail’ on Hong Kong MTR train
Passengers have been told to expect delays after a fire broke out on the Tsuen Wan Line train on Friday evening
February 10, 2017











At least 11 people were injured in a fire on an MTR train on the Tsuen Wan Line on Friday evening after a man reportedly tried to hurl a petrol bomb.

Initial information shows there were flames and smoke on board the train which was at Tsim Sha Tsui Station at 7.14pm, according to police.

A police source said: “A man tried to hurl a lit Molotov cocktail (petrol bomb) on board a packed train when it was about to reach TST platform and he caught fire.”

A Chinese man was escorted by police to Queen Elizabeth Hospital after the incident.

“Extra travelling time can be expected on the Tsuen Wan Line. Please allow more time for travel. More details to follow,” the MTR said in a statement on its official website.
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Old February 10th, 2017, 04:28 PM   #4183
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Old February 10th, 2017, 06:41 PM   #4184
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So many war correspondent instead of being helpful or retreating...
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Old February 10th, 2017, 09:36 PM   #4185
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So many war correspondent instead of being helpful or retreating...
Well it's the new age reporter era...
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Old February 10th, 2017, 11:48 PM   #4186
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They didn't appeared to be impeding. Were the fire extinguishers (if any available or accessable) made for this type of fire (started by an accelerant)? As a group,they did very well because no one got trampled.


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Old February 11th, 2017, 06:01 AM   #4187
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Man arrested after firebomb attack on Hong Kong MTR train injures at least 18
Video captures aftermath after fire breaks out on board the train at Tsim Sha Tsui station on Friday evening, as one man is arrested in connection with the incident
February 10, 2017







A man, declaring he would burn passengers to death, set off a firebomb on a crowded MTR train during Hong Kong’s evening rush hour on Friday, injuring at least 18 people and spreading chaos among panic-stricken commuters.

The attack on the Tsuen Wan Line as the train was pulling into Tsim Sha Tsui station shortly after 7pm forced authorities to shut down one of the city’s busiest transport interchanges, as the platform was turned into a triage zone for shell-shocked victims requiring first aid.

A police source said: “A man tried to hurl a lit Molotov cocktail [petrol bomb] on board a packed train when it was about to reach TST platform and he caught fire.”

The suspect said “burn you to death” before he drew the bottle and lit it, a police source said.

Yau Tsim District Commander Kwok Pak-chung said a 60-year-old man, Cheung Kam-Fai, was arrested in connection with the incident. He claimed to have started the fire for “personal reasons”.

Kwok dismissed suspicions that it was a terrorist attack, saying so far there was no such evidence, but said they would not rule out any possibilities in their investigations.

“Our initial investigations show the incident has nothing to do with [terrorism],” he said, adding that 160 police officers were deployed. The Fire Services Department deployed 130 officers.

The man was badly injured and was transferred from Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Jordan to Prince of Wales Hospital in Sha Tin, where he was said to be in a critical condition.

It is understood that the suspect, who is married with one son and one daughter, had been arrested in the past in connection with minor offences such as gambling.
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Old February 11th, 2017, 08:12 AM   #4188
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In a first for Hong Kong police and MTR, anti-terrorism officers patrol city’s railway network
Deployment made before July visit by Chinese leaders and in response to global attacks targeting public transport
January 29, 2017

The Hong Kong Police Force’s anti-terrorism officers have been deployed to patrol the city’s railway network for the first time to beef up security in response to global terrorist attacks and ahead of a visit by Chinese leaders, the Post has learned.

The revelation of upgraded security comes as the 29,000-strong force soon holds its largest ever anti-terror drill to ensure readiness for any eventuality during the 20th anniversary of Hong Kong’s return to Chinese sovereignty in July, police insiders said.

Local media have reported President Xi Jinping is expected to visit the city to mark the event and administer the oath of office to the new chief executive.

More : http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/l...orism-officers
just after this

the molotov attack happened
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Old February 12th, 2017, 03:10 AM   #4190
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(Poisonous) Fruit Daily reports that the suspect of the arson attack has severe mental illness and his son claimed to be murdered is actually alive and in good shape. Mental treatment in Hong Kong is usually criticized of being very lacking, also there are reports that patients stop medication voluntarily because of the side effects.
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So what should they have done? What would you do?
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So what should they have done? What would you do?
Well for one , get the heck out of there . Two , if got the knowledge, help in stabilising the injured.
By staying in the station platform (which is underground, I presumed) you are causing the limited oxygen to be used up even more quickly and giving lesser space for the first responders /first aid-ers to help
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From the New York Times two days ago.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/w...bway-fire.html
https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/...ng-subway.html
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The attack happened while the train was crossing the harbour in the tunnel, so there was no way passengers could safely evacuate. The driver did the right thing to continue the journey into the next station, where the train emptied out and the assailant was seen on fire on the platform.

Also note that the platform was not overwhelmed with smoke either. In fact, post-incident photos of the train carriage prove its materials should be fireproof. There was barely any damage on the floors, poles, and seats. There was no imminent danger that the platform would run out of oxygen from the small fire.
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The attack happened while the train was crossing the harbour in the tunnel, so there was no way passengers could safely evacuate. The driver did the right thing to continue the journey into the next station, where the train emptied out and the assailant was seen on fire on the platform.

Also note that the platform was not overwhelmed with smoke either. In fact, post-incident photos of the train carriage prove its materials should be fireproof. There was barely any damage on the floors, poles, and seats. There was no imminent danger that the platform would run out of oxygen from the small fire.
Wait, the cross-harbor tunnels don't have cross passages or a third evacuation tunnel to allow evacuations?

What happens if there's an equipment fire and the train is immobile?
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Wait, the cross-harbor tunnels don't have cross passages or a third evacuation tunnel to allow evacuations?

What happens if there's an equipment fire and the train is immobile?
The cross-harbour tunnel isn't very long. Train usually takes less than 5 minutes traveling from one end to the other. Unless the whole train is immobilized, the best option under such emergency is to keep driving to the next station or depot for rescue ASAP.

It's lucky that the arsonist is just insane but not smart (he used Molotov instead of bomb). There is indeed more dangerous spot in the system to have long-lasting damage under such attack.
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Wait, the cross-harbor tunnels don't have cross passages or a third evacuation tunnel to allow evacuations?

What happens if there's an equipment fire and the train is immobile?
Stopping a train in the middle of a tunnel while there is a live fire on board is reckless. The evacuation points are only at both ends of the train, which means pushing and shoveling to get off and likely result in more casualties. Getting to the next station and opening all doors will provide far more evacuation points and accelerate the safe movement of a packed train.

Also, news reports indicated staff were ready at the station with fire extinguishers to help quell the blaze.

News reports showed passengers opened the ventilation windows as the train proceeded to Tsim Sha Tsui station. Note that smoke inhalation was not the primary cause of injuries.

Your hypothetical scenario is not what happened. The train was fully functional during the fire.
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Stopping a train in the middle of a tunnel while there is a live fire on board is reckless. The evacuation points are only at both ends of the train, which means pushing and shoveling to get off and likely result in more casualties. Getting to the next station and opening all doors will provide far more evacuation points and accelerate the safe movement of a packed train.

Also, news reports indicated staff were ready at the station with fire extinguishers to help quell the blaze.

News reports showed passengers opened the ventilation windows as the train proceeded to Tsim Sha Tsui station. Note that smoke inhalation was not the primary cause of injuries.

Your hypothetical scenario is not what happened. The train was fully functional during the fire.
I know it's not what happened in this case, but wasn't there an incident a while back where a transformer on a West Rail train exploded? What would have been done then?
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I know it's not what happened in this case, but wasn't there an incident a while back where a transformer on a West Rail train exploded? What would have been done then?
You mean this one in 2007 : http://www.scmp.com/article/582097/t...resh-woes-kcrc

There was no fire inside the train, but they didn't have much of a choice but to evacuate into the tunnels since the train lost power.

Entirely different circumstances so these 2 incidents are not comparable.
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More trouble for Sha Tin-Central MTR link as handover of Wan Chai site delayed
Pipe pile discovered means design has to be revised, but Transport Undersecretary assures Legco that section completion date unaffected
February 10, 2017

Construction on the HK$79.8-billion Sha Tin to Central rail link might be further hindered after it was revealed on Friday that an unexpected technical problem at a Wan Chai site resulted in a handover delay.

Speaking to the Legislative Council’s subcommittee on railway matters, Undersecretary for Transport and Housing Yau Shing-mu, however, insisted the setback on the site transfer would not affect the completion target of 2021 for the link’s Hong Kong Island section.

The stretch lies between Wan Chai North and Admiralty, including Exhibition Station.

“The MTR Corporation’s teams will find ways to catch up on progress,” Yau assured lawmakers.

The Tai Wai to Hung Hom segment of the link, which faced repeated delays, can also be completed by mid-2019 – six months ahead of the revised schedule.

Yau’s updates came after media reports of overrun in the controversial project’s budget, with total costs ballooning to HK$100 billion.

In its August interim report last year, MTR Corp’s chief executive officer Lincoln Leong Kwok-kuen sounded the alarm about cost overruns and possible delays to the project beyond 2021.

The 17-kilometre link, comprising 10 stations, will connect existing railway lines to form east-west and north-south corridors with six interchange stations.

The MTR Corp will reveal the final cost overrun in the second half of this year – when it formally reports the findings to the government.

Yau said the government was prepared to seek funding from Legco’s Finance Committee this fiscal year to cover the extra costs.

He added that the Wan Chai site delay was caused by a discovery of an abandoned pipe pile near Fenwick Pier Street.

“As the pipe pile is deeply embedded into the ground, the wall design has to be revised to reduce the impact of the pile on scheduled construction works,” he told lawmakers.

Also, the late handover of certain critical work sites at the new Exhibition station, caused by the discovery of a large metal object on the seabed, affected foundation works and clashed with construction of the Central-Wan Chai bypass, Yau said.
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