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Old January 29th, 2005, 08:14 PM   #621
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The 139,840 square-foot project in the rapidly developing suburban area of Tseung Kwan O in Sai Kung in the New Territories is scheduled to be completed by 2007 or 2008, and will comprise 2,096 flats in five residential towers.
Oh no. TKO and Sai Kung are in Kowloon. Don't tell me that the developer doesn't know this.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 01:03 AM   #622
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Oh no. TKO and Sai Kung are in Kowloon. Don't tell me that the developer doesn't know this.
NO! Tsueng Kwan O and Sai Kung, which both belong to Sai Kung District, are in the New Territories. You can find the evidence from the District Councils Homepage.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 01:07 AM   #623
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Look at this address.

The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, Clear Water Bay, Kowloon, Hong Kong.

If Clear Water Bay is in Kowloon, how can TKO be in NT?

Actually we have learned in primary school that Sai Kung is in Kowloon.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 01:41 AM   #624
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Old January 30th, 2005, 09:52 AM   #625
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Look at this address.

The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, Clear Water Bay, Kowloon, Hong Kong.

If Clear Water Bay is in Kowloon, how can TKO be in NT?

Actually we have learned in primary school that Sai Kung is in Kowloon.
Tseung Kwan O is a tough area, some people say that it is Kowloon, but some say that it is in the New Territorites. But I would have to go with NT because Tseung Kwan O is a new town and it is part of the Sai Kung District which is part of the NT.
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Old January 30th, 2005, 03:07 PM   #626
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Tseung Kwan O is a tough area, some people say that it is Kowloon, but some say that it is in the New Territorites. But I would have to go with NT because Tseung Kwan O is a new town and it is part of the Sai Kung District which is part of the NT.
it's very simple... property developer + agents like to say TKO is in Kowloon while the government refuses to acknowledge that.
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Old January 31st, 2005, 08:43 AM   #627
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Is it just me or is it true that after the installation of the platform doors the MTR platforms are a lot more stuffy. Back in the days when the doors were not built a gust of wind would run through the platform whenever a train approached. That feeling has lost last time I returned to HK. The doors are all safe and everything but unless they upgrade their ventilation system, it's REALLY uncomfortable waiting for a train in stations with platform doors because of the heat.
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^ Well, in addition to the retrofitting of the Platform Screen Doors, stations are also undergoing an upgrading of the ventilation systems. So it is sometimes very hot in stations.
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Old January 31st, 2005, 08:50 AM   #629
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Is it just me or is it true that after the installation of the platform doors the MTR platforms are a lot more stuffy. Back in the days when the doors were not built a gust of wind would run through the platform whenever a train approached. That feeling has lost last time I returned to HK. The doors are all safe and everything but unless they upgrade their ventilation system, it's REALLY uncomfortable waiting for a train in stations with platform doors because of the heat.
I actually think that stations with screen doors installed are colder.
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Old January 31st, 2005, 08:52 PM   #630
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I'm most grateful for the elimination of the stank tunnel smell that all non-PSD metro systems and stations have. The wind from an approaching train is also gone (I kind of miss it), but it's probably for the better in terms of children/elderly getting scared off their balance, because who knows what could happen to them.
The greatest benefit in my opinion is the complete visual upgrade to all the stations and platform areas. It really looks good for something built in the 1960s and 70s.
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^ Definitely, the MTR is quite worth the price, even if it costs 15+ HKD to get across from Kowloon to HKIsland.
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Old February 1st, 2005, 08:31 AM   #632
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I think it's debatable whether Tseung Kwan O, and indeed Sai Kung district as a whole, is in Kowloon or NT. I remember when Hong Kong was still using area code, Sai Kung used the same area code as Kowloon (ie "3"). Hence, Sai Kung and Kowloon were listed in the same telephone directory. So there's a reason people treat Sai Kung as part of Kowloon. Then again, Sai Kung district was also under the jurisdiction of the Regional Council; so officially it should be part of NT.

Hong Kong commuters are so fortunate that the subway company agree to fit in screen doors in its stations. In North America, whenever there's a suicide or people being pushed down to the tracks, the media would cry for similar safety installations; only to be refused by transit authorities on the grounds of lack of funding. They would rather build more new stations than fitting screen doors on platforms.
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North American transit operators are heavily dependent on government subsidies, and many have other priorities to address before retrofitting their stations with PSDs. In fact, if they can't get enough to maintain their infrastructure to keep current service going, any new money should go there first before doing anything extra.
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Old February 4th, 2005, 04:34 PM   #634
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February 4, 2005
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Sarah Liao calls for MTRC improvement

The MTR Corporation needs to pay special attention to customer distress incidents, Secretary for the Environment, Transport & Works Dr Sarah Liao says.

The Government today received the Lloyd's Register Rail's report on the MTR's performance, and Dr Liao said properly addressing customer distress is one of the most important areas in which the corporation should improve.

She said although the report states that the railway's overall services are up to international standard, it has set out 16 recommendations for service improvement.

Dr Liao said the review looked into the maintenance and repair programme, comparing the figures of the internal maintenance team with those from outsourcing.

"At the moment, there is no indication that outsourcing is a cause for additional incidents. Of course, they will monitor it very carefully," she said, adding she is satisfied with the report, and will conduct a detailed analysis of it before making a report to the Legislative Council in March.
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Old February 6th, 2005, 12:56 AM   #635
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Old February 6th, 2005, 09:10 AM   #636
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MTR reliability gets clean bill of health
Dennis Chong, Hong Kong Standard
February 5, 2005


Michael Hamlyn, left, with MTRC chief CK Chow, presents his findings.

The consultant hired by the MTR Corp (MTRC) to evaluate its rail operation in the wake of a spate of disruptions last year, released a report Friday that was profuse in praise and contained just 16 minor recommendations.

Railway executives said they are pleased to accept the report and that the recommendations will be implemented.

At Friday's two-hour press conference in which the findings were released, top officials and experts from the consultancy firm, Lloyd's Register Rail, spent much time commending the reliability and stability of the Hong Kong subway system.

However, a legislator who monitors transport services said the report failed to allay public fears and that "old figures" were once again being used to prove the network's reliability.

Lloyd's Register Rail, a British risk management consultancy which was appointed by the MTRC in October to evaluate its performance and asset management, said 16 recommendations were given to the railway as a result of an independent assessment of its performance.

All the recommendations related to communications and performance. None were safety-related.

Saying MTRC had provided "one of the best performing train services in the world," Lloyd's said none of the recommendations made are urgently required and they will only make the railway perform better when implemented.

Rail experts from Lloyd's, who studied the MTRC's performance data from 2001 to 2004, found that the frequency of incidents had plummeted over the past three years.

The number of signaling and telecom incidents was reduced by 63 percent and the number of rolling stock incidents dropped by 32 percent.

"Our study has found there are no signs the railway is declining after 25 years of service," Michael Hamlyn, project director of the consultancy, said. "There is no cause for concern and the railway actually gave the best performance in the last quarter of 2004," he added.

The MTRC suffered a variety of service disruptions last year ranging from cracks on the track to trains spewing sparks and white smoke.

Apart from more frequent delays caused by signalling faults, two incidents drew the attention of the public and monitoring bodies.

In January, a mentally-ill 55-year-old man set a compartment of a Central-bound train on fire.

In August, a six-year-old mainland boy walked from Ngau Tau Kok station to Kowloon Bay along the track after losing sight of his mother.

Hamlyn said that while none of the disruptions had placed passengers at risk, the high-profile incidents had focused the public's attention on train safety.

But, he added, when last year's performance data was compared with that of 2001, the number of delays that lasted more than five minutes had been reduced by 69 percent.

Train punctuality and the number of passengers arriving on time both exceed international standards, he said.

According to the report, the proportion of train disruptions during peak hours increased by 5 percent to 29 percent last year from 2001.

Hamlyn said that the corporation should improve its risk management skills and explain its position to the public in order to "address unrealistic expectations."
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Railway serves as backbone of our transport system
Wednesday, February 2, 2005

Following is a question by the Hon Patrick Lau Sau-shing and a written reply by the Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works, Dr Sarah Liao, at the Legislative Council meeting today :

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It has been reported that the Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works stated in late May last year that the Government would carefully study the project proposals submitted by the MTR Corporation Limited ("MTRCL") for the construction of the West Hong Kong Island Line and South Hong Kong Island Line respectively, and estimated that decisions on these projects would be made in five to six months. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council of:

(a) the results of the studies on the above two projects; and

(b) the decisions on the two projects; if the authorities decide to approve one or both of the two projects, whether they will consider requesting MTRCL to expeditiously implement the project(s) and publish the timetable for the construction works; if the authorities decide not to approve one or both of the two projects, the factors considered by them in making the decision?

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Madam President,

Railways are environmentally friendly and efficient mass carriers. Under the Government's established policy, railways will serve as the backbone of Hong Kong's transport system. The development of railways requires huge investments. Moreover, once a rail line is developed, it will not be as flexible as other transport modes which can be redeployed more easily. Therefore, the Government needs to plan and implement new railway projects prudently.

The Government is examining the proposal submitted by the MTR Corporation Limited on the West Hong Kong Island Line (WIL) and the South Hong Kong Island Line (SIL), including their economic and transport performance, financial implications, and their impact on other public transport modes. We need to consider changing community needs, changes in the relevant planning parameters, as well as the motion passed by the Legislative Council's Panel on Transport on May 28, 2004 urging the Government to shelve temporarily any further development of and planning for the WIL and the SIL, and to proceed with the study on Route 4, to cater for the transport needs of residents in the Southern and Western Districts. We aim at reporting to the Panel on Transport on the way forward for the WIL and the SIL, including the programme for further planning and implementing the projects if they are to go ahead, within the first quarter of the year.
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MTR signs concession pact for Beijing rail project
8 February 2005
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MTR Corp and its partners yesterday signed a concession agreement with the Beijing municipal government for the development of a 15.3 billion yuan railway project in the capital.

MTR said the accord was subject to approval by the National Development and Reform Commission.

In December last year, MTR signed a legally binding agreement for a 49 per cent interest in the project.

MTR and its state-owned partners - Beijing Capital Group and Beijing Infrastructure Investment - will invest, build and operate the Beijing Metro Line 4, a core part of the transport infrastructure for the 2008 Olympic Games. Sandy Li

central bank chief seeks to damp yuan expectation

The mainland had a basically balanced current-account surplus last year, the Financial News yesterday quoted central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan as saying, apparently trying to cool expectations of a revaluation of the yuan.

Mr Zhou told Xinhua the yuan was not substantially undervalued, based on the mainland's balance of payments, but the country would manage capital flows with the aim of eventually making the currency convertible on the capital account.

The mainland has been under pressure to free up the yuan, which has been pegged near 8.28 to the US dollar since the 1997-98 Asian financial crisis.

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