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Old October 20th, 2005, 12:30 AM   #1041
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No, i meant this.

West-bound trip:
Use card 1 for entry at HKG, and travel from HKG all the way to AWE. But use card 2 to exit at AWE (keep card 1 unscanned). So card 2 would assume you just travel from airport to AWE, which is just $5.

East-bound trip:
Use card 2 for entry at AWE, and travel from AWE all the way to KWL or HKG. Never use card 2 again, so it assume u just exit at airport. Use card 1 to exit either at KWL or HKG. I was talking about the time limit because i remember a rule that say if you enter MTR system from any station, and didn't get out in certain time limit (like 2 hours??). It would charge you the highest price (i am guessing the farest station price). I am not sure about the same-day, same-station policy (please explain). So if you get out at KWL (exit using card 1) just within that time limit, card 1 would assume you just traveled from HKG to KWL. So i think the total cost would be 5+5+ whatever it cost to travel from hkg to kwl. I don't know how much it cost though if you exit at hkg.

Note: these steps won't work if MTR install fare gate at airport station.
This doesn't work because:
1. once you have scanned card 1 at HKG at the beginning of the trip, you are charged $100.
2. when you travel eastbound back to HKG on the same day, you are charged $0 (same day return fare = single journey fare)
3. no one is supposed to take AEL from HKG to KWL anyways but if you exit at KWL on the return trip, you will probably still be charge $0

if you do it your way, you will be charged $100 (card 1) + $5 (card 2) + $5 (card 2) = $110
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Old October 20th, 2005, 02:07 AM   #1042
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Old October 20th, 2005, 03:23 AM   #1043
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This doesn't work because:
1. once you have scanned card 1 at HKG at the beginning of the trip, you are charged $100.
2. when you travel eastbound back to HKG on the same day, you are charged $0 (same day return fare = single journey fare)
3. no one is supposed to take AEL from HKG to KWL anyways but if you exit at KWL on the return trip, you will probably still be charge $0

if you do it your way, you will be charged $100 (card 1) + $5 (card 2) + $5 (card 2) = $110
for step 1, since i will scan card 1 again at KWL later on (on the return trip). That mean card 1 assume i travel only from HKG to KWl, how can they charge $100?
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Old October 20th, 2005, 03:26 AM   #1044
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Old October 20th, 2005, 05:39 AM   #1045
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for step 1, since i will scan card 1 again at KWL later on (on the return trip). That mean card 1 assume i travel only from HKG to KWl, how can they charge $100?
After you board a train at HKG, you theoretically are not allowed to get off the train until you reach the airport because there are no exit fare gates installed on the westbound platforms in KWL and TSY. Moreover, westbound and eastbound platforms at KWL (or TSY) are not connected by staircases and elevators at the paid zone. So once you have scanned your card at HKG, you are charged $100 immediately (simply because you can only get off at the airport).

When you take the train back to KWL, the fare gate at KWL knows that you come from airport (because no one can get on the train at TSY except those using the morning express service).
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Old October 20th, 2005, 05:43 AM   #1046
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The $100 is deducted right at HKG station at the beginning of the trip (since there are not exit fare gates at airport).
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Old October 20th, 2005, 05:58 AM   #1047
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Oh, I see. I didn't know kwl, and tyl station doesn't have exit fare gate. So what happen if you exit at HKG on the eastbound (return) trip? Will you be charged 0 or 100 or 200??
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Old October 20th, 2005, 06:08 AM   #1048
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If you get on the train at HKG and go to airport, then take the train back the HKG, the second trip is free.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 01:38 PM   #1049
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Old October 20th, 2005, 01:59 PM   #1050
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Railway merger talks in the home stretch
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He said $6.5 billion worth of infrastructure projects such as the second passenger terminal and the AsiaWorld Expo exhibition and event centre at Hong Kong International Airport at Chek Lap Kok would be built in the next two years.
Something out of this topic to ask hkskyline, does the quote above mean the midfield terminal of the HKIA???
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Old October 20th, 2005, 02:03 PM   #1051
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One thing out of your fare coversation. There is actually two platforms for the Airport express in Hong Kong Station. But the other one is sealed and closed for future usage.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 08:23 PM   #1052
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Second passenger terminal in the next two years is a bad idea. The main terminal hasn't even been used to capacity.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 10:27 PM   #1053
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Hmm, i guess Tsang meant the Skyplaza (terminal one) that is currently uc, and current terminal becomes terminal two.
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Old October 21st, 2005, 01:13 AM   #1054
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Hmm, i guess Tsang meant the Skyplaza (terminal one) that is currently uc, and current terminal becomes terminal two.
nah HKAA named the SkyPlaza also Terminal Two of HKIA.
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Old October 21st, 2005, 03:24 AM   #1055
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Old October 21st, 2005, 10:44 AM   #1056
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The Airport Express was designed to go to the Convention Centre. Until the Central Phase 3 reclamation is fully complete, that extra platform will remain disused.
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Something out of this topic to ask hkskyline, does the quote above mean the midfield terminal of the HKIA???
The 2nd terminal should be the midfield one. I don't think there is a plan for another terminal beyond this one. I haven't picked that project up on the Hong Kong press at all lately, and I doubt something that big will start soon and go undetected.
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Hong Kong's MTR Corp Sept passengers 71.48 mln vs 75.32 mln in Aug
17 October 2005
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HONG KONG (XFN-ASIA) - MTR Corp Ltd said it carried 71.48 mln passengers in September, down from 75.32 mln in August.

On an average weekday basis, MTR Corp carried 2.53 mln passengers in September, unchanged from August, according to figures published on the company's website.

MTR Corp noted that the total monthly patronage of MTR lines and Airport Express line in September rose 2.89 pct year-on-year, but it did not give comparative numbers of passengers for the period.

However, for comparative month-on-month figures, the website said Airport Express carried 706,000 passengers in September, lower than the 736,000 passengers it carried in August, it said.

On an average daily basis, the Airport Express carried 23,500 people in September, against 23,700 in the preceding month.
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Hong Kong's MTR Corp Sept passengers 71.48 mln vs 75.32 mln in Aug
17 October 2005
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HONG KONG (XFN-ASIA) - MTR Corp Ltd said it carried 71.48 mln passengers in September, down from 75.32 mln in August.

On an average weekday basis, MTR Corp carried 2.53 mln passengers in September, unchanged from August, according to figures published on the company's website.

MTR Corp noted that the total monthly patronage of MTR lines and Airport Express line in September rose 2.89 pct year-on-year, but it did not give comparative numbers of passengers for the period.

However, for comparative month-on-month figures, the website said Airport Express carried 706,000 passengers in September, lower than the 736,000 passengers it carried in August, it said.

On an average daily basis, the Airport Express carried 23,500 people in September, against 23,700 in the preceding month.
i didn't know 23500 people use AE daily. I thought the train is usually quite empty.
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Old October 22nd, 2005, 12:18 AM   #1060
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I thought more people used it.
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