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Old August 21st, 2004, 06:39 AM   #101
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Well besides Hong Kong,Taipei,KL, and Singpore, Shanghai also has a similar system like the Octopus and could be used in Buses, and metros and some other transportation.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 07:52 AM   #102
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yeah HK transport is very clean and efficent, esp because of the SARS virus in 2003 everything was cleaner to prevent further spread of virus!

-also HK don't rely on cars as much because of effficent bus system , in western countries like USA, UK and australia car ownership and mileage is much higher than HK. hehe.. sydney's train system is worse than toronto's believe me.
My building in HK, there are a lot of Mercedes parked there, but hardly any leave the garage.

I didn't notice much change in transport after SARS, MTR continued its excellent service, KCRC offered OK service....Food handling definitely improved though.. especially at the markets. Parkn'shop & Wellcome improved too.

Sydney was definitely a hard city to drive around, easily with all the messy roads... but I really liked Melbourne's LRT system. I found it quite enjoyable to get around.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 07:59 AM   #103
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The Airport Express travels at over 130 km/h. The Tung Chung line feels faster than the other lines because the stations are further apart - probably around 100km/h.
I don't think it reaches 100km/h, at least not from Hong Kong station to Lai King, or even at Tsing Yi Island. However, it might speed up for the final stretch on Tsing Ma Bridge to Tung Chung. Quite efficient though..never encountered a delay at Olympic station. But the detour to Lai King to Tsuen Wan line gets kind of annoying. Minibus/KMB to Mongkok/Yau Ma Tei seems to be the faster alternative.

I was quite suprised that Olympic to Lai King costs more than Olympic to Mongkok. I know Mongkok is closer, but Lai King is only 2 stations away, & Mongkok is many stations away.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 08:07 AM   #104
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I don't think it reaches 100km/h, at least not from Hong Kong station to Lai King, or even at Tsing Yi Island. However, it might speed up for the final stretch on Tsing Ma Bridge to Tung Chung. Quite efficient though..never encountered a delay at Olympic station. But the detour to Lai King to Tsuen Wan line gets kind of annoying. Minibus/KMB to Mongkok/Yau Ma Tei seems to be the faster alternative.

I was quite suprised that Olympic to Lai King costs more than Olympic to Mongkok. I know Mongkok is closer, but Lai King is only 2 stations away, & Mongkok is many stations away.
Tung Chung Line trains sometimes do reach 135km/h between Lai King and Nam Cheong.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 08:26 AM   #105
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Tung Chung Line trains sometimes do reach 135km/h between Lai King and Nam Cheong.
Wow, never knew that, it just doesn't look this fast while inside the train.

In Toronto, nothing ever goes over 135km/h. We're lucky if the subway is going 70km/h.
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Old August 21st, 2004, 08:59 AM   #106
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anyone know the speed of KCR, west rail, and regular mtr?
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Old August 21st, 2004, 09:27 AM   #107
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MTR urban line: 80km/h
MTR Tung Chung Line + Airport Express: 130km/h
KCR East Rail: 120km/h
KCR West Rail: 130km/h
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Old August 21st, 2004, 03:32 PM   #108
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ailiton: are those average operating speeds or maximum designed train speeds?

VAN-TO: Nothing ever travels that fast in Singapore either... The newest Alstom Metropolis trainsets serving the North East Line in Singapore are designed only to travel at a maximum of 90km/h while the older trains on the other lines are only designed to travel at a maximum of 80km/h. Both types of trains travel at an average of perhaps 10km/h slower than the speeds that they are designed for...

Why do the trains travel faster on the Tung Chung/KCR Lines than on any other line? And service standards differ between the MTR and KCR?
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Old August 21st, 2004, 03:35 PM   #109
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VAN-TO: Nothing ever travels that fast in Singapore either... The newest Alstom Metropolis trainsets serving the North East Line in Singapore are designed only to travel at a maximum of 90km/h while the older trains on the other lines are only designed to travel at a maximum of 80km/h. Both types of trains travel at an average of perhaps 10km/h slower than the speeds that they are designed for...
Actually the alstom train can reach 100km/h max.....it's fixed at 90km/h max due to the distance between the stops......You can feel the max speed when the train travel from Harbourfront to Outram Park cos the distance is further......
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Old August 21st, 2004, 03:54 PM   #110
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ailiton: are those average operating speeds or maximum designed train speeds?

Why do the trains travel faster on the Tung Chung/KCR Lines than on any other line?
1. the speeds are average... and you can feel the max speed between Tai Wai and Kowloong Tong
2. between the stations, there's a long way to travel, mostly few kilometres long
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Old August 21st, 2004, 04:28 PM   #111
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Old August 21st, 2004, 04:35 PM   #112
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Did they install any glass doors on the elevated MTR stations?
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Old August 21st, 2004, 04:39 PM   #113
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Did they install any glass doors on the elevated MTR stations?
Yeah, on every MTR stations were install glass doors/walls, except outdoor stations...
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Old August 21st, 2004, 05:13 PM   #114
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What do you mean by outdoor stations? So Chai Wan,Diamond Hill are installed?
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Old August 21st, 2004, 08:57 PM   #115
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What do you mean by outdoor stations? So Chai Wan,Diamond Hill are installed?
I mean stations like this one
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Old August 21st, 2004, 09:20 PM   #116
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Did they install any glass doors on the elevated MTR stations?
Not on elevated station. Platform gates could be a possibility in the future.
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Old August 22nd, 2004, 06:07 AM   #117
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Platform gates as in ''fences?''

Wouldn't the cost of installing them be high too...though its indeed cheaper than installing platform screens... MTR is willing to foot the cost? Or will it result in higher fares?
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Old August 22nd, 2004, 02:48 PM   #118
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are those average operating speeds or maximum designed train speeds?
These speeds are maximum designed train speeds. The trains run at these speed at some sections. For average speeds:
MTR urban lines: ~60 km/h
MTR Tung Chung Line and Airport Express: ~100 km/h
KCR East Rail: ~90 km/h
KCR West Rail: ~100 km/h
The trains run at different speeds in different sections, so it is difficult to calculate the exact average speed.

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Why do the trains travel faster on the Tung Chung/KCR Lines than on any other line?
Simply because the distances between the stations of these lines are longer.

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And service standards differ between the MTR and KCR?
What do you mean about service standards?
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Old August 22nd, 2004, 02:55 PM   #119
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These "add-value locations" form a VERY VERY extensive network all around HK.
In addition, some of the banks in Hong Kong offer octopus automatic add-value service. You can register your card number to the banks and after that, in case the amount of your card drop to negative, it will be automatically refilled by HK$250 and this is paid by your credit card account.
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Old August 22nd, 2004, 02:56 PM   #120
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MTR urban line: 80km/h
MTR Tung Chung Line + Airport Express: 130km/h
KCR East Rail: 120km/h
KCR West Rail: 130km/h
For MTR Tung Chung Line and Airport Express, the speeds should be 135km/h.
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