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Old August 22nd, 2007, 06:50 PM   #1961
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Perhaps many people didn't know that the MTRC did borrowed money from the World Bank for the constructions of the first three lines. The MTRC had already had the profit just several years after the operation, but they had to pay the debts with interest to the World Bank until 1989. Properties did help the MTRC a lot!
It's rather quick for such a big project.
First line opened in late 1979 between TST and Shek Kap Mei (later to Kwun Tong) then extended to Central in 1980, second line began service in 1982 to Tsuen Wan and third, Island Line, began in 1985. By 1989, Kwun Tong Line extended to Quarry Bay across the harbour.

The corporation paid off the loan by 1989, it's only 10 years since its opening while construction still going during the 10 year period. No way the fare system can help to pay the debt off entirely.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 04:05 AM   #1962
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Andrew gets contract for upgrade of railroad radio network in Hong Kong
21 August 2007

WESTCHESTER, Ill. (AP) - Cable maker Andrew Corp. on Tuesday said it was awarded an upgrade contract for the Mass Transit Railway Corp.'s territory-wide radio network in Hong Kong.

Financial terms were not disclosed.

Under the contract, Andrew will modify the railway's communications infrastructure to allow the transformation of its radio system from a conventional 80 megahertz trunk system to an 800 megahertz terrestrial trunked system.

Andrew said it will design, manufacture and install the required system components, as well as train the railroad staff who will implement it and provide maintenance services.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 06:16 PM   #1963
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I think third rail is probably more dangerous than overhead wire. First, the rail is easier to be reached by human. Second, third rail can conduct electricity through flooded floor during storm which can cause service shut down.
Definitely. NYC's subway system uses third rail and it causes a lot of problems, ranging from track fires (caused by litter coming into contact with electricity), workers killed, and of course, service disruptions caused by flooding.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 07:36 AM   #1964
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Rail users set for easier journey after merger
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Tuesday, August 28, 2007

Commuters will enjoy a fare cut and hassle-free interchanges when the Mass Transit Railway and Kowloon-Canton Railway finally merge.

However, the actual date when the two railways will come together will only be set after a shareholder meeting in October.

MTR Corp merger integration general manager Adi Lau Tin-shing told a press conference that 110 ticket gates will be removed from the interchange stations at Kowloon Tong, Mei Foo and Nam Cheong.

"It will save our passengers the trouble of queuing up for entry or exit. We estimate about half or one minute can be saved," Lau said.

Lau also stressed that on the day of the official merger passengers will enjoy an immediate fare concession.

However, the interchange discount is restricted to Octopus card holders.

Those using single journey tickets will still need to buy a second ticket when changing systems. "We can expect a better arrangement within a year of the merger," Lau said.

He said construction work on removing unnecessary ticket gates and other amenities for the merged railway will begin once shareholders reach a consensus on the exact day.

With the removal of the ticket gates, Lau said the passenger walkway to the northern concourse of Kowloon Tong KCR station will be widened from 9.3 meters to 12.5m, meaning peak hour capacity of 10,000 passengers can be increased to about 30,000.

In mid May, tests were done to determine the construction plan and to minimize passenger inconvenience. Construction cost is about HK$40 million.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 01:02 PM   #1965
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I heard that some MTR trains have the combined system map on them already.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 07:11 PM   #1966
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Some trains on the Tsuen Wan line are already covered with the new panels.
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 07:19 PM   #1967
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what are the renamed stations going to be? Apparently Mong Kok KCR is now Mong Kok East
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Old September 3rd, 2007, 08:03 PM   #1968
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Don't think they changed that, but KCR lines are getting colored in instead of grey like previous. KCR West rail will be pink and KCR East Rail will be skyblue.
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Old September 5th, 2007, 06:15 AM   #1969
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Toilet duty is too demanding, say MTR staff
Workload fears grow at stations

27 August 2007
South China Morning Post

Two months after the MTR Corporation announced it would better publicise the availability of staff toilets for public use during emergencies, employees at the stations are complaining about the increased workload in helping passengers.

An MTR staff union said it had received complaints that showing the public the way to the toilets had almost become a "nuisance" because the employees said it was taking time away from their normal duties.

Union chairman Philip Chan Sin-wo said their work guidelines required them to walk passengers to the toilets and wait outside until they finished.

"We are not saying the passengers are annoying, but [the number of requests] has posed problems," Mr Chan said. "What if they faint inside the enclosed toilets and get hurt?

"Other passengers or tourists in need of help would also be left unattended when our only staff overseeing the concourses are strained to accompany the toilet users."

Mr Chan and other employees on the MTR said a rise in numbers had not created a hygiene problem, but he said it would be unavoidable that some train captains needing to use toilets when they switched trains might find the toilets were occupied by the public.

The MTR Corp did not provide figures concerning the number of passengers who asked to use the staff toilets since their availability was made more public in late July.

A spokesman stressed it had always been the job of the station staff to assist sick passengers in need of toilet facilities, so it should not amount to additional work.

An earlier telephone survey of 513 people showed that 80 per cent of the respondents did not know staff toilets in the stations were available to passengers.

Another MTR workers' union, Hong Kong Mass Transit Railway Staff General Association, said the management was conducting a survey to gauge impact of increased passenger use of the toilets on the company's manpower.

Union deputy chairman Mak Pui-tung said they would wait for the outcome of the survey before deciding whether they would demand the MTR Corp hire more workers.

The MTR Corp has put up signs and notices on station platforms and control rooms since late July, telling passengers they may use staff toilets after lawmakers blasted it for refusing to retrofit toilets in its 45 underground stations, citing technical reasons.

Each station is equipped with at least seven staff toilets. The MTR Corp is studying the possibility of retrofitting toilets in eight of its above-ground stations.

Attempts made by three reporters of the South China Morning Post to use toilets at five different stations last week were all answered positively, although on one occasion a customer service centre employee asked whether it was urgent.

In four of the five requests, the reporters were escorted to the toilets. Only once did the employee stay outside the toilet as guidelines require.

One employee said that the number of passengers who visited the staff toilets had risen substantially after media coverage of the issue.
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Old September 6th, 2007, 01:59 AM   #1970
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IMO, they should've thought of implementing toilets when they were building shops in each station, but I guess that's too late now.
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Old September 7th, 2007, 02:54 AM   #1971
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Well, if they could retrofit U/G stations w/ air-conditioning, PSD's and televisions (selling ads), surely the MTR can build some toilets at major stations. This would probably relieve stress on regular staff from having to wait for the patron (by hiring dedicated staff), enable drivers to use their own bathrooms.
Then again, not providing toilets will teach people "self-control."
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Old September 7th, 2007, 03:24 AM   #1972
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Toilet or restroom isn't a good idea for subway, do you ever see those city's subway have restroom, it always a dirty nasty place, where people selling illegal stuff, and where they hind dead people. I think HK system is good, bathroom is always few steps away at all the Fairwood, McD or de Coral, can't people walk few more steps anymore?
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Old September 8th, 2007, 07:22 PM   #1973
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Toilet or restroom isn't a good idea for subway, do you ever see those city's subway have restroom, it always a dirty nasty place, where people selling illegal stuff, and where they hind dead people. I think HK system is good, bathroom is always few steps away at all the Fairwood, McD or de Coral, can't people walk few more steps anymore?
East Rail and West Rail both have public bathrooms in the stations, and they are all good. It's not something new to HK, it's just MTR doesn't have it.
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East Rail and West Rail both have public bathrooms in the stations, and they are all good. It's not something new to HK, it's just MTR doesn't have it.
MTR's heavy use and crowds make toilets very hard to maintain. KCR doesn't have the adjacent mall infrastructure and MTR stations are near amenities, so the need for public toilets is far less. I can't imagine what'd happen if Central had 2-3 urinals as a public facility like on the KCR.
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Not exactly, the toilets in Kowloon and HK Station are always tidy.
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Old September 21st, 2007, 06:33 AM   #1976
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Not exactly, the toilets in Kowloon and HK Station are always tidy.

HK Station's toilet is tidy, but it smells REALLY bad, especially on Sundays!!!
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because they cooking Filipino Food there...LOL don't kill me!!
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Any pics of the updated route maps onboard?
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I don't think it will happen until the company merge with KCRC.
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HK Station's toilet is tidy, but it smells REALLY bad, especially on Sundays!!!
Hong Kong stations don't have toilets...?
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