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jumoni · April 30th, 2011, 02:18 PM

Karnataka Rakshana Vedike.....are these hooligans going to be prosecuted for the vandalism on Govt. property. I mean if these peoples are allowed to get scot free...it will not pass a good message to the general public.

In India, any group of Tom, Dick and Harry is allowed to take the authority for ransom and create nuisance for the general law abiding public or the common man.

Gujjars created havoc in NCR region for more then 3-4 months, uprooting train tracks, blocking roads and trains, etc.....the worst sufferers were the general public, the common man.

Siv Sena....those scoundrels in the name of Maratha Manus takes to street disturbing public peace, damaging public properties and what not.

ullasavadan · April 30th, 2011, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Udasi should realise he has no right to disallow NDTPL.
Don't compare Hyderabad.
That was built by the cash starved GHMC and HMDA.

If there is an understanding / agreement between GOK and NDTPL as claimed by Udasi, then they have every right to disallow the toll collection. We should not under estimate any state government as they have rights as per the constitution.

Moreover, collecting toll before the tollway is built is against the principles of natural justice. In those cases people will support whosoever stands for them and people support for the Government in such matters will definitely be there.

IMO NDTPL should take everybody (key stakeholders) into confidence before starting toll collection if they want to do it at this stage. Or they should wait till they build the tollway and then start collecting the same.

rsrikanth05 · April 30th, 2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ullasavadan

If there is an understanding / agreement between GOK and NDTPL as claimed by Udasi, then they have every right to disallow the toll collection. We should not under estimate any state government as they have rights as per the constitution.

Moreover, collecting toll before the tollway is built is against the principles of natural justice. In those cases people will support whosoever stands for them and people support for the Government in such matters will definitely be there.

IMO NDTPL should take everybody (key stakeholders) into confidence before starting toll collection if they want to do it at this stage. Or they should wait till they build the tollway and then start collecting the same.

They don't have any. Navayuga Devanahalli Tollway Private Limited, signed an agreement with the National Highways Authority of India, Ministry of Road Transport and Highways, Government of India. Not govt of Karnataka.
The stakeholders are none other than NDTPL and NHAI themselves.

engineer.akash · April 30th, 2011, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ullasavadan

Moreover, collecting toll before the tollway is built is against the principles of natural justice.
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+1,I support GOK or any organistaion which is against tolling

gentem · April 30th, 2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

Udasi should realise he has no right to disallow NDTPL.
Don't compare Hyderabad.
That was built by the cash starved GHMC and HMDA.

You should realise Udasi has every right

The agreement with state govt will have several conditions at least few of which are violated by Navayuga, which is enough to stop them from tolling.

let them toll soon after completion of elevated highway, time lost in toll booth will be saved by traveling signal free. Again, they should leave out a toll free service road.

engineer.akash · April 30th, 2011, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gentem

You should realise Udasi has every right

The agreement with state govt will have several conditions at least few of which are violated by Navayuga, which is enough to stop them from tolling.

let them toll soon after completion of elevated highway, time lost in toll booth will be saved by traveling signal free. Again, they should leave out a toll free service road.

Very true

ullasavadan · April 30th, 2011, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

They don't have any. Navayuga Devanahalli Tollway Private Limited, signed an agreement with the National Highways Authority of India, Ministry of Road Transport and Highways, Government of India. Not govt of Karnataka.
The stakeholders are none other than NDTPL and NHAI themselves.

I have not seen or heard anything about the stakeholders for this project. But going by plain logic, GoK needs to be involved in this project as part of the project lies within city and they need support from local Govt., police, etc. I do not think they can ignore GoK so easily.

rsrikanth05 · April 30th, 2011, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ullasavadan

I have not seen or heard anything about the stakeholders for this project. But going by plain logic, GoK needs to be involved in this project as part of the project lies within city and they need support from local Govt., police, etc. I do not think they can ignore GoK so easily.

Will ask my Lawyer friend and get back to you on this matter.

avinash2060 · May 2nd, 2011, 06:05 AM

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The All India Motor Transport Congress (AIMTC) has called for a meeting to discuss the issue of toll booths within city limits, triggered by the confusion regarding the toll booth on the way to Devanahalli.

There should be no toll booths within 60 km from the city limits. However, there are seven toll booths that have breached the rule. It is estimated that the toll collected is around Rs 1.5 crore daily.

Speaking to Deccan Chronicle, AIMTC chief G.R. Shanmugappa said: “There are seven roads identified close to the city limits where toll collection is happening or is going to happen in the near future. We are opposing the move and have called for an emergency meeting on April 29.

“When people are paying taxes from which infrastructure project are executed, what is the point in collecting toll and further burdening the public? Also, as per the rules, no toll booth should be erected within the 60 km from the city limits.”

Toll is being collected from people commuting from Madiwala and going to Electronic City via the Expressway. If you want to choose to have an easy way out to reach Mysore Road, you will have to pay toll near Kengeri at NICE road toll booths. On the road to Kolar, toll has to be paid near K.R. Puram.

“What is the need to collect toll near Nelmangala flyover? All this is absurd and the toll plazas have breached the set standards. All over India no toll booths are erected within 40 km from the city limits.

“Toll booths should be erected only 40 km from the Vidhana Soudha. The toll is being collected by private contractors.

“Some Rs 1.5 crore is collected per day. The toll booth at NICE Road is collecting `30 lakh per day. We will talk with NHAI and take serious action,” said Mr Shanmugappa.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/chann...collection-819

gentem · May 2nd, 2011, 06:43 AM

electronic city no need to pay toll if you go on regular road or service road. same is the case with nelamangala road. such an option should be there in airport road too where service road is not tolled.

naveen_blr · May 2nd, 2011, 06:59 AM

+1
but they are using all tactics to make people suffer below the BETL, barricades for people to cross the road is so absurd.

rsrikanth05 · May 2nd, 2011, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gentem

electronic city no need to pay toll if you go on regular road or service road. same is the case with nelamangala road. such an option should be there in airport road too where service road is not tolled.

When you reach Attibele on Hosur road or cross over to JAS tollway on Tumkur road, everybody pays toll.

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Originally Posted by naveen_blr

+1
but they are using all tactics to make people suffer below the BETL, barricades for people to cross the road is so absurd.

It is a normal ciity road below.
Barricades were set up by BTP, not NHAI.

naveen_blr · May 2nd, 2011, 11:18 AM

BTP? You mean BETL?

rsrikanth05 · May 2nd, 2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by naveen_blr

BTP? You mean BETL?

BTP matlab Bangalore Traffic Police.

naveen_blr · May 2nd, 2011, 11:23 AM

ya but why cant there be underpasses well planned and even if they are there force people to use them?

rsrikanth05 · May 2nd, 2011, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by naveen_blr

ya but why cant there be underpasses well planned and even if they are there force people to use them?

The pedestrian underpasses built by the NHAI were handed over to the BBMP who keeps them locked.

gentem · May 2nd, 2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rsrikanth05

When you reach Attibele on Hosur road or cross over to JAS tollway on Tumkur road, everybody pays toll.

It is a normal ciity road below.
Barricades were set up by BTP, not NHAI.

Barricades are way better than road humps

Take a break, Attibele is not for city purpose, similar ones are there beyond tumkur too. BIAL handles 10m passengers that is 30,000 visitors to the city per day.

rsrikanth05 · May 2nd, 2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gentem

Barricades are way better than road humps

Take a break, Attibele is not for city purpose, similar ones are there beyond tumkur too. BIAL handles 10m passengers that is 30,000 visitors to the city per day.

Attibele toll booth, Nelamangala JAS toll Booth, BIAL toll booth ... all beyond city limits.

But, I.feel there should be a toll free service lane.

gentem · May 2nd, 2011, 01:37 PM

airport is part of the city. technically, legally or by common sense.

rsrikanth05 · May 2nd, 2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gentem

airport is part of the city. technically, legally or by common sense.

Common sense, YES. Technically, sort of. Legally, NO.

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jumoni Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: B'lore/Ghy Posts: 1,460 Likes (Received): 2	Karnataka Rakshana Vedike.....are these hooligans going to be prosecuted for the vandalism on Govt. property. I mean if these peoples are allowed to get scot free...it will not pass a good message to the general public. In India, any group of Tom, Dick and Harry is allowed to take the authority for ransom and create nuisance for the general law abiding public or the common man. Gujjars created havoc in NCR region for more then 3-4 months, uprooting train tracks, blocking roads and trains, etc.....the worst sufferers were the general public, the common man. Siv Sena....those scoundrels in the name of Maratha Manus takes to street disturbing public peace, damaging public properties and what not. __________________ Guwahati Trip; Shillong Trip; NE pics;

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May 2nd, 2011, 06:59 AM	#131
naveen_blr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Namma Bengalooru Posts: 1,723 Likes (Received): 7	+1 but they are using all tactics to make people suffer below the BETL, barricades for people to cross the road is so absurd.

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naveen_blr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Namma Bengalooru Posts: 1,723 Likes (Received): 7	BTP? You mean BETL?

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naveen_blr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Namma Bengalooru Posts: 1,723 Likes (Received): 7	ya but why cant there be underpasses well planned and even if they are there force people to use them?